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re: The main villain for season three of Arrow

Posted on 7/27/14 at 1:17 pm to
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 1:17 pm to
badass
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 1:43 pm to
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Where do you think mirakuru comes from?


i never considered that. that would be pretty cool. im hoping they dont use the lazarus pits as a way to bring back tommy, but it seems like a legit story they could tell.

they mentioned on their panel that they will have a flashback scene of tommy meeting oliver in hong kong. so are they trying to get tommy back into peoples minds?

if ra's hates malcolm, would it not be out of the question that ra's would then use malcolm's son against him?

going to be a fun season!
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:36 pm to
It's definitely going to be a great season. I can't wait to see how the dynamics between Oliver, Thea, and Malcolm play out. Oliver is going to be devastated when he finds out that Thea is with Malcolm, but they'll end up having to team up to fight Ra's and the League.

And I'm interested in how they portray Wildcat. I think he'll have to be something other than just a great boxer in order to start Laurel's training. I'm guessing he'll be some sort of ex-MMA fighter or something that can train her in something more than just boxing.
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:43 pm to
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I'm guessing he'll be some sort of ex-MMA fighter


without a doubt. he was a boxer since it was the biggest sport at the time. im sure theyll update him in this way.

did you watch the arrow panel from SDCC?
Posted by VaBamaMan
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:44 pm to
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And I'm interested in how they portray Wildcat.


Wait is this a go? Because at Denver comic-con this summer Amell referred to Sarah's actress as "The Black Canary". it was a throwaway line, he just said it in passing, but is there a chance Laurel isn't becoming anything?



He referred to their mother being a villain as well.
Posted by NWHoustonTiger
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:50 pm to
Very cool. The Arrow producer's comments seem to indicate that Arrow could use Ras because he would not feature into the "Batfleck" universe. I think one could infer that DC will at least keep their film and TV universes separate - i.e. characters who appear in the Justice League film universe won't also appear on any of the TV series, played by different characters (Fox's Gotham series would be the exception, since it's events would presumably take place before any of the Justice League film storylines).
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:52 pm to
SDCC had the entire cast and the 2 showrunners there.

cliffnotes:

-they mentioned Laurel will have a great story and it involves Wildcat

-Felicity will be on episode 4 of the Flash. her backstory will also be explored. the showrunners have known her story since season 1

-everyone thinks Thea is just in Europe

-roy and thea will have an interesting meeting during the season

-the showrunners originally wanted to use Ted Kord, but DC said they already have plans for him. That's why they are using Ray Palmer (so dont expect blue beetle to ever be on Arrow)
that also shows, that while the tv shows and movies are separate, they are not going to "double down" on characters.
Posted by VaBamaMan
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 2:59 pm to
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they mentioned Laurel will have a great story and it involves Wildcat -Felicity will be on episode 4 of the Flash. her backstory will also be explored. the showrunners have known her story since season 1 -everyone thinks Thea is just in Europe -roy and thea will have an interesting meeting during the season


One thing you missed in your writeup is that Episode 8 of both shows is a 2 hour long crossover. I watched the SDCC panel. I just missed the name wildcat, my computer doesn't have great speakers. Wildcat and Laurel in the same sentence kind of seals though. I bet the comment from the Huntress about letting the darkness in is what leads her to call herself "Black" canary.
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 3:03 pm to
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One thing you missed in your writeup is that Episode 8 of both shows is a 2 hour long crossover.


yeah i guess i shouldve thrown that in. they had announced that before the panel as well.

another thing is, Oliver does end up back on the island again at some point. not saying this season, but they did say again how the show starts with oliver leaving the island to go back to starling. so yeah, he does end up back on it.

they also squashed a rumor that Ivo was Felicity's father. they flat out said that he is not.
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 3:06 pm to
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Wait is this a go? Because at Denver comic-con this summer Amell referred to Sarah's actress as "The Black Canary". it was a throwaway line, he just said it in passing, but is there a chance Laurel isn't becoming anything?

Sarah is the current Canary, but the showrunners have stated that what we are seeing is the origin of the Black Canary, and have strongly hinted that Laurel will eventually take up the mantel as the true Black Canary that we know from the comics. Now that can happen this season, next season, or they may change their mind and it not happen at all. But I think that was their plan from the beginning of the show.

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He referred to their mother being a villain as well.

Laurel and Sarah's mother is going to be a villain? I would be very surprised if they made Dinah a villain considering she was basically the first Black Canary in the comics.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 3:11 pm to
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I would be very surprised if they made Dinah a villain considering she was basically the first Black Canary in the comics.


FYI, the original Black Canary was a villain in the Johnny Thunder stories. She converted from thief to heroine.
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 3:13 pm to
idk how I feel about the mom being a villain. They hinted that Detective Lance will eventually (may already be) be a commissioner gordon to arrow.

so if the dinah lance thing is true the lances would have:
a hero daughter attached to the league
a daughter in hero training
a father who is basically Commissioner Gordon
a mother who is a villain

on paper, it sounds a bit ridiculous. hope it plays out better.
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 3:23 pm to
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FYI, the original Black Canary was a villain in the Johnny Thunder stories. She converted from thief to heroine.

I thought it turned out that she was just infiltrating a criminal organization by playing a thief?

If she does turn out to be a villain (which I'm still skeptical of), I wonder what they do with her. I'm guessing it'll have to be something bigger than just a thief. I'm guessing they'll morph her into some other DC villain in order to make her a big enough deal for Oliver.
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 3:31 pm to
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did you watch the arrow panel from SDCC?

No, I haven't seen it yet. Has it been posted on Youtube yet?
Posted by VaBamaMan
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 3:34 pm to
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No, I haven't seen it yet. Has it been posted on Youtube yet?


Yeap, it is a fan video, but a decent one.
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 3:36 pm to
anyone watch Amell host the gigantic three hour entertainment panel?

jw if anything good came from that minus the footage they showed.
Posted by VaBamaMan
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 3:38 pm to
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anyone watch Amell host the gigantic three hour entertainment panel?


Missed that. Now I am curious.
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 3:45 pm to
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anyone watch Amell host the gigantic three hour entertainment panel?

jw if anything good came from that minus the footage they showed.

That's where all of the info from the article I linked came from. All of the info on Ra's and Wildcat came from the 3 hr panel.
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 7/27/14 at 9:36 pm to
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-Felicity will be on episode 4 of the Flash. her backstory will also be explored. the showrunners have known her story since season 1

I just watched the Comic-Con panel, and I love the title of the episode that shows her flash back to MIT...Oracle!
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 7/28/14 at 3:12 pm to
so apparently her dad will be a big deal. i have no real clue as to who it might be. the ivo theory was actually pretty good.

any thoughts on who her father could be?
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