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The film industry is dead and gone according to Martin Scorsese and Ridley Scott

Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:25 pm
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:25 pm
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In an interview with the Associated Press last month, Scorsese, the illustrious director of Taxi Driver, Goodfellas, and 2017 Oscar contender Silence, said movies just ain’t what they used to be.

"Cinema is gone," Scorsese says. "The cinema I grew up with and that I'm making, it's gone."

"The theater will always be there for that communal experience, there's no doubt. But what kind of experience is it going to be?" he continues. "Is it always going to be a theme-park movie? I sound like an old man, which I am. The big screen for us in the '50s, you go from Westerns to 'Lawrence of Arabia' to the special experience of '2001' in 1968. The experience of seeing 'Vertigo' and 'The Searchers' in VistaVision."

Scorsese points to the proliferation of images and the overreliance on superficial techniques as trends that have diminished the power of cinema to younger audiences. "It should matter to your life," he says. "Unfortunately the latest generations don't know that it mattered so much."

"TV, I don't think has taken that place. Not yet," adds Scorsese, whose "Boardwalk Empire" was lauded but whose high-priced "Vinyl" was canceled after one season. "I tried it. I had success to a certain extent. 'Vinyl' we tried but we found that the atmosphere for the type of picture we wanted to make — the nature of the language, the drugs, the sex, depicting the rock 'n' roll world of the '70s — we got a lot of resistance. So I don't know about that freedom."

Ridley Scott, director of Alien, Blade Runner, and Gladiator, expressed a similar sentiment to Digital Spy last week.

Scott told press including Digital Spy that he's got no interest in superhero cinema and wants to "keep making smart films".

"Superhero movies are not my kind of thing - that's why I've never really done one," he said."[I've been asked] several times, but I can't believe in the thin, gossamer tight-rope of the non-reality of the situation of the superhero.

"I've done that kind of movie - Blade Runner really is a comic strip when you think about it, it's a dark story told in an unreal world. You could almost put Batman or Superman in that world, that atmosphere, except I'd have a f**king good story, as opposed to no story!"

It's not just Marvel and DC dismaying Sir Ridley, though - he thinks "cinema mainly is pretty bad" and admitted he's "concerned" for its future prospects.

"I want to keep doing cinema and I hope it doesn't affect those of us who still keep making smart films," he said. "I'm hoping it doesn't affect me."


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Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:32 pm to
Again?

I bet they love the smell of their own farts.

Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:33 pm to
scorsese is right, but

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"The cinema I grew up with and that I'm making, it's gone."





as far as Ridley, I'd rather watch a frickin comic book movie than the dogshit he's put out recently. that's rich coming from him.

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"I want to keep doing cinema and I hope it doesn't affect those of us who still keep making smart films," he said. "I'm hoping it doesn't affect me."


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1997 G.I. Jane
2000 Gladiator 12 5
2003 Matchstick Men
2005 Kingdom of Heaven
2006 A Good Year
2007 American Gangster 2
2008 Body of Lies
2010 Robin Hood
2012 Prometheus 1
2013 The Counselor
2014 Exodus: Gods and Kings


This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 8:34 pm
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:34 pm to
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I bet they love the smell of their own farts.


exactly. they prob jerk off to their own movies
Posted by RollTide1987
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:37 pm to
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Carson123987



You and I are actually in agreement on Ridley Scott. He's full of himself.

Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:47 pm to
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"Is it always going to be a theme-park movie? I sound like an old man, which I am. The big screen for us in the '50s, you go from Westerns


I love me some Westerns, but there is quite a bit of crud in there too. Scorcese is a romantic, that's why he makes films the way he does, so I get it.

But he's wrong.

Film is fine, I know the guy watches a lot of film, but he has to be missing some stuff out there. This year was full of interesting, non-mainstream films.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:13 pm to
It's an old article. There's a lot of truth in what they're saying thou.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:23 pm to
American Gangster 2?
Posted by NeverRains
Texas
Member since Jun 2012
3010 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:32 pm to
As long as David Fincher keeps making movies, cinema will not die.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50253 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:34 pm to
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Blade Runner really is the best damned comic strip
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:36 pm to
I kinda like me matchstick men
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66439 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:51 pm to
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American Gangster 2?


the 2 there and the 1 after prometheus are footnotes are some shite from wikipedia
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18572 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:52 pm to
He has one of the most arrogant quotes I've ever heard. On why he was the correct choice to direct Exodus: "only an atheist, like me, can have a real appreciation of this story." Dude is fricking full of himself.
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Regret nothing that made you smile
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:04 pm to
Marty's talking like at one point there were no shitty movies with no heart or story to tell.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112338 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:12 pm to
The audacity of Scott to act like his shite doesn't stink with the movies he's made is hilarious. You aren't Stanley Kubrick bro
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63399 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:32 pm to
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Scott told press including Digital Spy that he's got no interest in superhero cinema and wants to "keep making smart films".

"Superhero movies are not my kind of thing - that's why I've never really done one," he said."[I've been asked] several times, but I can't believe in the thin, gossamer tight-rope of the non-reality of the situation of the superhero. "I've done that kind of movie - Blade Runner really is a comic strip when you think about it, it's a dark story told in an unreal world. You could almost put Batman or Superman in that world, that atmosphere, except I'd have a f**king good story, as opposed to no story!"

It's not just Marvel and DC dismaying Sir Ridley, though - he thinks "cinema mainly is pretty bad" and admitted he's "concerned" for its future prospects.


Seconded.
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
21852 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:44 pm to
5-7 of those Ridley Scott movies you listed are decently good to great (Matchstick Men, Gladiator), 7/11 ain't bad batting.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58084 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:07 am to
I count just 4 and none of them come after American Gangster. Also, l-o-fricking-l at him having the gall to act like he only makes smart films w/the ridiculous crap that went on in Prometheus. If that movie didn't have such good special effects it would have been treated like the AvP movies and forgotten within a year.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 9:36 am to
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The film industry is dead and gone according to Martin Scorsese and Ridley Scott










Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 9:45 am to
The last 3 movies I've seen were Hell or High Water, Arrival, and La La Land. I'd say the film industry is alive and well. It is getting a lot more competition from TV these days, but I'd say that's a good thing.
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