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Posted on 11/2/14 at 12:12 pm to
Posted by Wanderin Reb
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Posted on 11/2/14 at 12:12 pm to
Easy. He woke up a woman. I'd be pissed, too.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 1:33 pm to
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Anyone else notice Clara's birthday? November 23rd. The day Doctor Who premiered in 1963. That was nice.



It was also revealed earlier on that her mom died the date the reboot first aired.

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I really wish they hadn't shown the fricking Cybermen in the episode preview. Ruined the big reveal for me. As soon as they said what the dark water did I knew what was in the tanks.



< lives in Wales, got Cybermen being in the finale spoiled months before the season started



In my opinion, this has been the best season of the reboot. There have been a few episodes that have stuck with me (for different reasons). Last night was one of those episodes.
This post was edited on 11/2/14 at 1:44 pm
Posted by lagallifrey
Member since Dec 2013
2010 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 2:30 pm to
I tend to agree. It has had a variety of episode types but has had more consistently good episodes than any other season, along with several standout great episodes.

Capaldi is just perfect to play the doctor at this time. His response to Clara after her betrayal showed how he really is a good man, and even more so than I realized. If he wants to save even his enemies and give them a chance to change (the master, for example), how could Clara question how he would respond to her?
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30164 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 3:21 pm to
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how could Clara question how he would respond to her?



Deep hurt can frick EVERY perception up.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 5:02 pm to
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The doors...when they closed...looked like the eyes.


yea it was also on the ipad screen thingy but might have been backwards or upsidedown.

either way i was guessing great intelligence.. well i had a 50/50 shot but missed.

Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 6:46 pm to
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Why did they let him hang around so long? That's just weird.



Seb alludes to the idea that minds don't show up in the Nethersphere immediately.

However, I don't think it's too far off time-wise from his death.
Posted by lagallifrey
Member since Dec 2013
2010 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 6:48 am to
Still haven't rewatched it but had another thought.

How and why did the master choose Clara? I think it was in order to get the doctor to 3w. The master wanted to rub it in, and always seems to do so. Which means that the master set up Danny's death in my opinion. Maybe we will see missy driving that car at some point? I don't remember if they showed the driver.
Posted by yurintroubl
Dallas, Tx.
Member since Apr 2008
30164 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 6:50 am to
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Which means that the master set up Danny's death in my opinion.


Oh, definitely. I figured as much the second it happened.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 6:16 am to
As expected, people lost their minds over the "don't cremate me" thing (SPOILERS)


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The broadcaster stated on its complaints page: “Doctor Who is a family drama with a long tradition of tackling some of the more fundamental questions about life and death. We were mindful of the themes explored in ‘Dark Water’ and are confident that they are appropriate in the context of the heightened sci-fi world of the show.

“The scene in which a character reveals 3W’s unconventional theory about the afterlife was preceded by the same character warning the Doctor and Clara several times that what they were about to hear could be distressing. When the Doctor does hear these claims, he immediately pours scorn on them, dismissing them out of hand as a “con” and a “racket”. It transpires that he is correct, and the entire concept is revealed to be a scam perpetrated by Missy.”
This post was edited on 11/5/14 at 6:16 am
Posted by lagallifrey
Member since Dec 2013
2010 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 11:01 am to
What is the problem? I thought it was a very interesting concept. And we were meant to be skeptical about it. And the comment about donating a body to science made me
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17260 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 12:14 pm to
Doctor Who has been getting complaints about being too scary for kids since the seventies. Some of the early Tom Baker episodes, for instance, were a hell of a lot more raw than anything New Who has dished out.

But it just goes to show the power of television that people are getting freaked out about being cremated because they saw something on a blatantly fictitious TV show. Are these some people worried that our Moon is really a giant space egg?
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9339 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 12:17 pm to
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people are getting freaked out about being cremated because they saw something on a blatantly fictitious TV show


Did you read the article..?

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dismissing them out of hand as a “con” and a “racket”.
This post was edited on 11/5/14 at 12:20 pm
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17260 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 12:22 pm to
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The BBC have responded to complaints from some viewers who were unhappy with how Dark Water‘s storyline explored the themes of death and cremation.




Am I missing something?

The Doctor was dismissing the whole "the dead feel their own cremation" as a "con and a racket".

Did you watch the episode?
This post was edited on 11/5/14 at 12:23 pm
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9339 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 12:24 pm to
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Am I missing something?



It seemed like you read that it had something to do with young viewers, when the article doesn't mention that at all..

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Did you watch the episode?


Please...

I'm the guy at your office with the weeping angel in the corner fighting The Doctor Potato Head...

ETA: We only recently started letting our 12 year old watch episodes "live", and that depends on what I see in the episode trailers..
This post was edited on 11/5/14 at 12:26 pm
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17260 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 12:31 pm to
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It seemed like you read that it had something to do with young viewers, when the article doesn't mention that at all..


Doctor Who usually got complaints from adults "on behalf" of supposedly scared kids. I did mean to imply that kids were scared by this episode because they probably were not.

I figured this one would get complaints because the whole afterlife thing can be a touchy subject but this episode had the Doctor smelling this episode's "afterlife" as BS from the get go, even if he didn't have the full picture.
This post was edited on 11/5/14 at 12:33 pm
Posted by lagallifrey
Member since Dec 2013
2010 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 5:00 pm to
My kids, all under 10, have watched every episode this season (not live). They haven't been really scared by anything. I was more disturbed early on by listen than they were.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 11/5/14 at 5:04 pm to
SPOILERS:



Bit from a review of the final ep:

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If you thought last week’s episode was dark, it was just the appetiser. This might prove another slightly controversial episode for its further exploration of grim themes, with plenty of unsettling moments and overall bleak tone. There’s the odd bit of humour, but for a good 75% of the episode it’s about as far away from family friendly drama as Doctor Who is likely to get. It almost feels like Moffat sat there and said, “Right then, you want darkness, death and actual consequence. Well here you go!” Suddenly the fairytale nature of “In the Forest of the Night” is starting to make a lot more sense.
Posted by lagallifrey
Member since Dec 2013
2010 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 8:08 am to
Another review from Wales online:
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Dark, brooding and brilliant, it's in my all time favourite top 10 Doctor Who episodes. It's got everything you ever wanted for an ending, and so much more.

Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11707 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 8:33 am to
Damn. I'm pumped for this then.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 8:58 am to
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In my opinion, this has been the best season of the reboot. There have been a few episodes that have stuck with me (for different reasons). Last night was one of those episodes.


I've only watched up through Flatline, but this is saying a whole lot. Through the first 4 episodes I thought this was going to be the worst season of the reboot. The next 5 did a whole lot to save the season, but to say it's better than season 2 or 5 is crazy talk. Hell, even season 3 is hard to beat.
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