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re: The Dark Knight - Best Superhero movie ever?
Posted on 5/26/13 at 9:29 am to Da #1 Stunna
Posted on 5/26/13 at 9:29 am to Da #1 Stunna
BB > TDK > TDKR
Posted on 5/26/13 at 9:33 am to Da #1 Stunna
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I think your splitting hairs here. I realize Batman is a mortal,
Batman is a superhero, the Batman comics are superhero books (remotely, yes, no argument here).
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I'm talking about the genre. Batman falls in the superhero genre.
Other than being based on a comic book, TDK is nowhere near a "superhero" movie, or even an "Action Movie." The entire movie is built around crime tropes.
This is a part of its brilliancy though, so there's that. But let's be strict in our definitions.
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I admit that I am not a comic book purist.
It has nothing to do with comic book purism but,
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Superhero movie
Definitions, of which, there's more to it than just to be based on a comic book.
This post was edited on 5/26/13 at 9:40 am
Posted on 5/26/13 at 9:36 am to BluegrassBelle
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For me the original Superman movie with Reeve is the top. I don't know if I'll ever watch one that tops it for me.
Winner.
As a "superhero film" there really is no equal. Following Supes would probably be First Class, Avengers, The Incredibles, and a few others.
And I"m not even that much of a Superman fan, but that film is just superhero perfection.
Posted on 5/26/13 at 9:42 am to Da #1 Stunna
Is that the one where the superhero wins in the end?
Posted on 5/26/13 at 10:03 am to HerbEaverstinks
The Avengers is first
Superman 11 The Donner version..not the Lester version is second. See the Donner version before voting.
The Dark Knight Returns and Batman Begins are probably just as good, but third IMO
Superman 11 The Donner version..not the Lester version is second. See the Donner version before voting.
The Dark Knight Returns and Batman Begins are probably just as good, but third IMO
Posted on 5/26/13 at 11:07 am to Da #1 Stunna
For me it is. The Dark Knight.
Posted on 5/26/13 at 11:14 am to ipodking
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X-Men First Class is the best
most overrated superhero movie on this board.
IF they hadn't had the "team" of X-Men and just had Magneto, Prof X and Mystique I'd put it up there, but the scenes not carried by the three stars were close to Last Stand level bad.
Any movie where the heroes literally sit around a table and come up with code names and display their powers(not actually using them) for the audience is really talking down to them.
The first X-Men was a better movie than this.
If Kick-arse counts, this deserves consideration. Incredibles too
IMO, the best superhero movie was The Avengers.
This post was edited on 5/26/13 at 11:17 am
Posted on 5/26/13 at 11:23 am to Rougarou4lsu
Heath Ledger's performance puts Dark Knight at the top.
Probably X2 and The Rocketeer after that.
Probably X2 and The Rocketeer after that.
Posted on 5/26/13 at 12:14 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Movies in my book ahead of The Dark Knight (in no particular order):
1) The Crow
2) The Watchmen
3) Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
4) Blade 2
5) X-Men 2
6) The Incredibles
7) The Dark Knight Returns (Not Rises)
8) Spider Man 2
9) X-Men First Class
10) Batman Begins
1) The Crow
2) The Watchmen
3) Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
4) Blade 2
5) X-Men 2
6) The Incredibles
7) The Dark Knight Returns (Not Rises)
8) Spider Man 2
9) X-Men First Class
10) Batman Begins
Posted on 5/26/13 at 1:31 pm to DeuceisLoose
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3) Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
Is probably best "Batman" film no question.
The Dark Knight may be an amazing interpretation of "Batman," but Phantasm is a better representation of the character as inspired by its origins.
Posted on 5/26/13 at 2:20 pm to Freauxzen
If we're doing this:
1) Dark Knight
2) X2
3) Rocketeer
4) Superman II
5) Superman I
6) Watchmen
7) Iron Man
8) Captain America
9) X-Men First Class
10)Batman Begins
If you offered me tickets to see any superhero movie on the big screen, right now, I would go for the first Superman movie.
If we open it up to straight to video movies, then Batman Beyond: The Return of the Joker makes my list. Also the Specter short that was released a few years ago.
If you took the last four episodes of Justice League Unlimited in Season Two (the four prior to the Epilogue episode) and edited them together in a movie, it would trump everything.
1) Dark Knight
2) X2
3) Rocketeer
4) Superman II
5) Superman I
6) Watchmen
7) Iron Man
8) Captain America
9) X-Men First Class
10)Batman Begins
If you offered me tickets to see any superhero movie on the big screen, right now, I would go for the first Superman movie.
If we open it up to straight to video movies, then Batman Beyond: The Return of the Joker makes my list. Also the Specter short that was released a few years ago.
If you took the last four episodes of Justice League Unlimited in Season Two (the four prior to the Epilogue episode) and edited them together in a movie, it would trump everything.
Posted on 5/26/13 at 2:57 pm to Fewer Kilometers
I love almost everything about the first two Superman movies...except the special effects. They do not hold up at all. Christopher Reeve was fantastic in them.
Posted on 5/26/13 at 3:16 pm to DeuceisLoose
I have to go with Avengers as #1 superhero movie.
Nolan's batman trilogy was badass, but the Avengers was just more fun and that is what a superhero movie is about to me.
Nolan's batman trilogy was badass, but the Avengers was just more fun and that is what a superhero movie is about to me.
Posted on 5/26/13 at 3:24 pm to Freauxzen
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As a "superhero film" there really is no equal. Following Supes would probably be First Class, Avengers, The Incredibles, and a few others.
Honestly, if you want to get technical with the genre, I don't think I would classify the Incredibles as really a Superhero specific film either, like I would with TDK. Really, the Incredibles is more like a spy movie than the average superhero affair. Replace the Incredibles with a retired James Bond who marries a bad arse spy, has kids, and tries to start life in an incredibly boring job, and the film doesn't change much at all. I think the villain would have and not been so much a fanboy, but that and the super powers themselves are just about the only thing that would change in that movie if it were instead based around a family of spies. And that was actually the initial concept for the Incredibles, they just changed it to superheroes instead.
I'd say First Class plays with that line as well, but not quite as much as TDK or the Incredibles.
This post was edited on 5/26/13 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 5/26/13 at 4:34 pm to OMLandshark
Avengers doesn't hold up for me as a complete movie. A lot of characters pushed together with jokes and action scenes. More of an amusement park 3D ride than a movie.
Posted on 5/26/13 at 4:52 pm to Da #1 Stunna
Man of Steel is gonna give it a run for its money imo.
Posted on 5/26/13 at 4:55 pm to Da #1 Stunna
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The Dark Knight - Best Superhero movie ever?
yes.
Posted on 5/26/13 at 5:23 pm to MI LSU
I'd put The Incredibles above TDK. Far better pacing and a better script. The bad guy gets offed in the end, too.
I'd give TDK 4/4 stars, but it dragged in spots.
The Two-Face story felt bolted on and poorly done. 2+ hours of movie and then they rushed through totally upstanding crime fighting DA - (girlfriend dies+ridiculous face burn makeup) = ready to kill a child.
And the cell-phone radar thing Batman throws together went a little beyond normal suspension of disbelief.
I'd give TDK 4/4 stars, but it dragged in spots.
The Two-Face story felt bolted on and poorly done. 2+ hours of movie and then they rushed through totally upstanding crime fighting DA - (girlfriend dies+ridiculous face burn makeup) = ready to kill a child.
And the cell-phone radar thing Batman throws together went a little beyond normal suspension of disbelief.
Posted on 5/26/13 at 5:58 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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Avengers doesn't hold up for me as a complete movie. A lot of characters pushed together with jokes and action scenes. More of an amusement park 3D ride than a movie.
Kinda the point in my opinion. Its a cheesy comic book come to life, in a good way. I think its the closest they've come to getting comic books right.
Posted on 5/26/13 at 6:08 pm to betweenthebara
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Yes, and it's not even close.
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