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The Caine Mutiny Court Martial - Showtime - William Friedkin’s final film

Posted on 10/9/23 at 11:05 pm
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36060 posts
Posted on 10/9/23 at 11:05 pm
Extremely well done. Jason Clarke once again knocks it out of the park. Strong cast.
Posted by D_cup
Member since Aug 2023
25 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 1:37 am to
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Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51293 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 6:36 am to
It was ok. It can be tough to watch plays that are turned into films.

I think this is Lance Reddick's last movie, but I'm not sure if he has any other posthumous releases coming out.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10628 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 8:10 am to
The original film was excellent. Why do I need to see a modern version?
Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
Member since Dec 2003
6865 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 8:59 am to
It was the strawberries!
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36060 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 10:40 am to
quote:

The original film was excellent. Why do I need to see a modern version?
Because it's based on the stage play that focuses on the trial alone (the stage play that was written by the book's author).
Posted by BRich
Old Metairie
Member since Aug 2017
2224 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

The original film was excellent. Why do I need to see a modern version?

quote:

Because it's based on the stage play that focuses on the trial alone (the stage play that was written by the book's author).



So, from what I can see, I am assuming from the people of color and females in the scenes, it has been updated to modern times?

If so, that's one drawback against it to start with. Number 1, it's not taking place during wartime, which adds a sense of importance to any and all actions taken by the men, such as Queeg's cowardly decision to use the yellow dye marker. Secondly, if it is modern times, there would be much more technological advances that could be used as evidence-- video/sound from onboard cameras or cell phones, mechanical/technical records of the ship's status during the typhoon, etc. rather than just personal testimony and recollections in the courtroom.

I plan on watching it, but taking it with a grain of salt.
Posted by kbdos
Uptown
Member since Oct 2005
2056 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 5:33 pm to
I really enjoyed it. Dont worry about the source material and enjoy it for what it is.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
30401 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 7:03 pm to
Thanks for the heads up on it being on Showtime. Put it in my queue. I have more Paramount stuff in that watch list than Showtime when their deal went thru. Showtime TV series have really dropped off since the mid-2010's.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36060 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 7:35 pm to
quote:

I plan on watching it, but taking it with a grain of salt.
Probably not worth watching if you have preconceived notions of why it shouldn’t work.
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
4583 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 5:34 am to
I vacillated on whether or not Kiefer Sutherland did a great job playing Queeg or a bad Bogart impression, but I settled squarely on the former by the end. Lance Reddick was well cast as he had such a presence about him. As you mentioned, Jason Clarke was stellar as well.

My only semi-criticism might be that, unlike the movie version with Fred McMurray, we really didn’t get much (if any) insight into the nature of Thomas Keefer until the final scene at the party. Yes, I realized Greenwald made the comments to Maryk after Keefer testified. Because of that, I don’t think the ending had the same level of impact as it did in the movie version.

To the poster who was worried because (gasp) “people of color and women are in it” - neither that or your alleged fear of it not being during war time are really proven out. They make the point that Queeg was pre-war career Navy. They sell the fact that the Caine is an active Navy ship with an important mission.

The only place it gets sorta dicey is the closing where Greenwald references joining “after 911” after earlier mentioning that Queeg had been in the Navy for 21 years, and the trial references events that take place in 2022. But again, that doesn’t change the impact of the story it only makes the timeline fuzzy.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10628 posts
Posted on 10/11/23 at 7:42 am to
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Number 1, it's not taking place during wartime, which adds a sense of importance to any and all actions taken by the men, such as Queeg's cowardly decision to use the yellow dye marker. Secondly, if it is modern times, there would be much more technological advances that could be used as evidence-- video/sound from onboard cameras or cell phones, mechanical/technical records of the ship's status during the typhoon, etc. rather than just personal testimony and recollections in the courtroom.


Excellent points.
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