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re: The Big Lebowski
Posted on 5/20/15 at 12:54 pm to AlxTgr
Posted on 5/20/15 at 12:54 pm to AlxTgr
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The fact that more threads are started about it than Raising Arizona saddens me.
I agree with this. I think Raising Arizona is better than The Big Lebowski. The ending to Raising Arizona almost made me as a grown arse man cry.
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 12:54 pm to AlxTgr
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What seemed forced?
The dialogue
I honestly don't know if you're trolling, but if you're not, I will simply say that The Big Lebowski has some of the best dialogue in cinema history. Particularly for comedies. It is simply some of the most clever, well delivered dialogue I can think of.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 1:21 pm to AlxTgr
Well you're not privy to all the new shite man. It's very complicated. A lot of ins and outs and what have yous.
Also, if I could just get that in cash....
Also, if I could just get that in cash....
Posted on 5/20/15 at 1:23 pm to 0jersey
quote:
[Maude shows the porn video starring Bunny to the Dude]
Sherry in 'Logjammin': [on video] You must be here to fix the cable.
Maude Lebowski: Lord. You can imagine where it goes from here.
The Dude: He fixes the cable?
Maude Lebowski: Don't be fatuous, Jeffrey.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 1:31 pm to sabes que
I love the Coen brothers for the most part but I really don't like the Big Lebowski, Fargo, or Raising Arizona although I've only seen that one once.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 1:40 pm to LoveThatMoney
I challenge anyone to present a movie with better dialogue than TBL. I can think of none.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:01 pm to BobRoss
Walter Sobchak: fricking Germans. Nothing changes. fricking Nazis.
Donny: They were Nazis, Dude?
Walter Sobchak: Oh, come on Donny, they were threatening castration! Are we gonna split hairs here? Am I wrong?
Donny: They were Nazis, Dude?
Walter Sobchak: Oh, come on Donny, they were threatening castration! Are we gonna split hairs here? Am I wrong?
This post was edited on 5/20/15 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:11 pm to BobRoss
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I challenge anyone to present a movie with better dialogue than TBL. I can think of none.
I'm with you. I predict some Tarantino movie--probably Pulp Fiction--will be thrown out as better.
I don't agree with that sentiment, but I imagine someone will say it.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 2:56 pm to LoveThatMoney
quote:I could say the same for you though. That's the beauty of it. I watch it and wonder how it's not listed among the stinkers of our time. Maybe it's because of how much I like RA, Fargo, NCFOM, A Serious man and True Grit. Maybe it's just not fair that I compare it to those. Maybe I would like it if those did not exist. But they do, and I cannot stand the dialogue in TBL. Can't stand any aspect of it really.
I honestly don't know if you're trolling, but if you're not, I will simply say that The Big Lebowski has some of the best dialogue in cinema history. Particularly for comedies. It is simply some of the most clever, well delivered dialogue I can think of.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 3:04 pm to LoveThatMoney
Just out of curiosity, I searched "Lebowski overrated".
19 0n 20 most overrated list
Thread from 2011 Yes, i was attacked there too.
#1 on this list
I could go on and on. Look, no is saying you shouldn't like it. I can't understand why it's so hard to believe many people find this movie to be shite.
19 0n 20 most overrated list
Thread from 2011
Yes, i was attacked there too. #1 on this list
I could go on and on. Look, no is saying you shouldn't like it. I can't understand why it's so hard to believe many people find this movie to be shite.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 3:05 pm to sabes que
I've only seen it once and thought it was just ok.
There are a few funny scenes in it, but it's mostly just dull and crass.
There are a few funny scenes in it, but it's mostly just dull and crass.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 3:14 pm to sabes que
Posted on 5/20/15 at 3:26 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
Just out of curiosity, I searched "Lebowski overrated".
19 0n 20 most overrated list
Thread from 2011 Yes, i was attacked there too.
#1 on this list
I can see why some people don't like it. I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is that calling the dialogue "forced" is about like saying 2001's match cut is too jarring, and, therefore, "forced." In fact, it's worse because at least the fact that it's jarring supports your contention that it's forced. But the match cut of the bone to the space station is often considered one of the best of all time. Similarly, The Big Lebowski is often considered to have some of the best dialogue in film.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but it becomes a bit suspect when you are going against a tidal wave of critical acclaim for a given part of a movie when you provide nothing to support your claim other than "Hey, look, I can find a few people on the internet who agree with me."
I mean, no shite. You can find a few people on the internet who believe we shouldn't vaccinate our kids or that we should teach creation science in schools in our fricking biology classes. Or that the great planet Tiamat was destroyed by the rogue planet Nibiru, which contained alien lifeforms that gave us technology and are now housed on a comet that comes around every so many given years and that's when our technological leaps occur. I know. I've read it. It's fricking fascinatingly absurd.
If you wanted to say you felt their was no conflict, that there was no real plot, that the plot wasn't gripping or that it went all over the place, those are arguments that I can see being made and for which examples could be provided. I would disagree and provide my own examples for why those arguments are wrong, but I can see it.
But saying that the dialogue of the Big Lebowski is forced without going further, and when considered in the context of that movie's dialogue being widely considered brilliant is grounds for me to wonder if you are trolling. Providing me with links to nonsense lists from Joe Schmoe as proof that the movie is overrated is (a) suspect evidence at best, and (b) beside the point you are trying to make which is that the dialogue is forced.
quote:but you would just look more and more foolish. You don't like the movie. That's fine. But if you don't provide anyone on here with a rational reason for it and, in fact, attack perhaps the strongest point of the film without explaining yourself, you appear to be at best purposefully contrarian and at worst purposefully trolling for laughs. Even if you are not.
I could go on and on.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 3:31 pm to AlxTgr
I've tried to like this movie and can't. It's just fricking stupid.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 4:52 pm to LoveThatMoney
quote:And the worst.
The Big Lebowski is often considered to have some of the best dialogue in film.
quote:
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but it becomes a bit suspect
You are an idiot. quote:OK, you're even dumber than I thought.
"Hey, look, I can find a few people on the internet who agree with me."
I mean, no shite. You can find a few people on the internet who believe we shouldn't vaccinate our kids or that we should teach creation science in schools in our fricking biology classes.
quote:It was forced and pathetic given the other Coen works of brilliance.
But saying that the dialogue of the Big Lebowski is forced without going further, and when considered in the context of that movie's dialogue being widely considered brilliant is grounds for me to wonder if you are trolling.
quote:Man, you really should read your own stuff.
but you would just look more and more foolish
quote:This trolling thing you've latched on to. Why do you think you're using this crutch? I guess you have nothing else. So, a person who likes many Coen movies is just going to pick TBL to troll over? Do you not see how lame this is? Especially when "overrated" is so commonly linked to it?
But if you don't provide anyone on here with a rational reason for it and, in fact, attack perhaps the strongest point of the film without explaining yourself, you appear to be at best purposefully contrarian and at worst purposefully trolling for laughs. Even if you are not.
Look how many words you wasted because some guy you'll never meet said the dialogue was forced. Jeez, you're a strange human
Posted on 5/20/15 at 5:00 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
The Big Lebowski is often considered to have some of the best dialogue in film.
And the worst.
quote:
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but it becomes a bit suspect
You are an idiot.
quote:
"Hey, look, I can find a few people on the internet who agree with me."
I mean, no shite. You can find a few people on the internet who believe we shouldn't vaccinate our kids or that we should teach creation science in schools in our fricking biology classes.
OK, you're even dumber than I thought.
quote:
But saying that the dialogue of the Big Lebowski is forced without going further, and when considered in the context of that movie's dialogue being widely considered brilliant is grounds for me to wonder if you are trolling.
It was forced and pathetic given the other Coen works of brilliance.
quote:
but you would just look more and more foolish
Man, you really should read your own stuff.
quote:
But if you don't provide anyone on here with a rational reason for it and, in fact, attack perhaps the strongest point of the film without explaining yourself, you appear to be at best purposefully contrarian and at worst purposefully trolling for laughs. Even if you are not.
This trolling thing you've latched on to. Why do you think you're using this crutch? I guess you have nothing else. So, a person who likes many Coen movies is just going to pick TBL to troll over? Do you not see how lame this is? Especially when "overrated" is so commonly linked to it?
Look how many words you wasted because some guy you'll never meet said the dialogue was forced. Jeez, you're a strange human
Everything you said was an utter deflection. You have no leg to stand on and it's painful to watch you embarrass yourself. But I think I shall.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 5:47 pm to LoveThatMoney
LoveThatMoney doesn't fall for any of that Bush-League psych out shite! It's laughable man! He woulda fricked you in the arse on page one, but now he'll frick you in the arse on page 3 instead!
Gauntlet has been laid down--BOOM
Anyway, I can see how this movie isn't for everyone. I personally think the dialogue is lock tight, albeit a bit crass and vulgar. The comedy played out by a group of people who have no intentions of being funny at any point in the whole movie is writing and acting genius. After all, look at the actors involved.
I can get a complaint about subject matter, or even not thinking it's funny bc it's not your sense of humor, but I agree that saying the writing/dialogue is forced is seriously the weakest possible argument you can make about this movie.
Gauntlet has been laid down--BOOM
Anyway, I can see how this movie isn't for everyone. I personally think the dialogue is lock tight, albeit a bit crass and vulgar. The comedy played out by a group of people who have no intentions of being funny at any point in the whole movie is writing and acting genius. After all, look at the actors involved.
I can get a complaint about subject matter, or even not thinking it's funny bc it's not your sense of humor, but I agree that saying the writing/dialogue is forced is seriously the weakest possible argument you can make about this movie.
This post was edited on 5/20/15 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 5/20/15 at 6:45 pm to 0jersey
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Walter Sobchak: Donny was a good bowler, and a good man. He was one of us. He was a man who loved the outdoors... and bowling, and as a surfer he explored the beaches of Southern California, from La Jolla to Leo Carrillo and... up to... Pismo. He died, like so many young men of his generation, he died before his time. In your wisdom, Lord, you took him, as you took so many bright flowering young men at Khe Sanh, at Langdok, at Hill 364. These young men gave their lives. And so would Donny. Donny, who loved bowling. And so, Theodore Donald Karabotsos, in accordance with what we think your dying wishes might well have been, we commit your final mortal remains to the bosom of the Pacific Ocean, which you loved so well. Good night, sweet prince.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 6:52 pm to NotoriousFSU
quote:
quote:
Walter Sobchak: Donny was a good bowler, and a good man. He was one of us. He was a man who loved the outdoors... and bowling, and as a surfer he explored the beaches of Southern California, from La Jolla to Leo Carrillo and... up to... Pismo. He died, like so many young men of his generation, he died before his time. In your wisdom, Lord, you took him, as you took so many bright flowering young men at Khe Sanh, at Langdok, at Hill 364. These young men gave their lives. And so would Donny. Donny, who loved bowling. And so, Theodore Donald Karabotsos, in accordance with what we think your dying wishes might well have been, we commit your final mortal remains to the bosom of the Pacific Ocean, which you loved so well. Good night, sweet prince.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 6:57 pm to NotoriousFSU
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I'll just check with the boys down at the crime lab, they got four more detectives working on the case
20 second video
This cracks me up every time I watch.
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