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Star Wars 8: Will Hayden Christensen Return as Darth Vader?

Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:35 pm
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:35 pm
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Nearly three years after Disney purchased Lucasfilm, Star Wars: Episode 7 is only a few short months from release; however, while fans are still salivating over new Force Awakens details (and speculation), attention has already begun to shift toward other Star Wars universe movies the studio is prepping. Despite delays for the second Star Wars “anthology” film, following the departure of Fantastic Four director Josh Trank, the first spin-off movie Rogue One as well as the currently untitled Star Wars 8 are still on track.

Gareth Edwards’ Rogue One has already started shooting, releasing an official photo of the movie’s cast, with Rian Johnson’s Episode 8 close behind. As a result, rumors are flying as to what moviegoers can expect from the upcoming Galaxy Far, Far Away films, as well as how the projects could connect to the original trilogy, prequels, and beloved animated series, The Clone Wars, with a new (unsubstantiated) rumor suggesting that a fan-favorite character, along with a divisive actor, could be returning for Star Wars 8.

Following leaked Star Wars 8 set photos, that revealed a massive battle, we’re now getting word that Darth Vader could appear in Johnson’s film – with Hayden Christensen back to depict some version of Anakin Skywalker – one that requires “training.”

The report comes courtesy of Making Star Wars who claims, according to their sources:

“A team in the U.K. are soon heading to the U.S. to begin training Hayden Christensen for a Star Wars: Episode VIII appearance of some sort.“

No doubt, the rumor here is entirely hearsay and short on specifics (a trademark of speculation masquerading as news); that said, Making Star Wars has a decent track-record – so it would be a mistake to dismiss their claim at this point.

Understandably, excitement for a Darth Vader or Anakin Skywalker flashback will be, for some Star Wars fans, overshadowed by any potential involvement from prequel star Hayden Christensen. Christensen’s portrayal of the love-struck Jedi proved to be one of the prequel’s most contentious elements; though, it remains unclear whether the actor (or poor directing) was really to blame for any bungling of Anakin’s storyline. As a result, it’s worth reserving judgment before panicking over a rumored appearance by Christensen in Episode 8. After all, a flashback of the hero (or villain) in action – could go a long way in helping to re-establish Anakin as one of the galaxy’s most powerful warriors.

It’s ground that has been explored in both The Clone Wars (as Anakin) and Rebels (with a memorable appearance from Vader) – and the animated series have gone a long way in rebuilding appreciation for Anakin as a character. To that end, a flashback sequence featuring the Jedi in action could be a great way to expand his uneven prequel storyline – while providing needed setup for Episode 8.

Assuming the sources are correct, there are several says that Episode 8 could, in theory, put a spotlight back on Christensen. As suggested, the most obvious explanation is a Clone Wars-era flashback – featuring a fully-powered Jedi version of Anakin Skywalker. It wouldn’t be the first time that we’ve heard grumblings of flashbacks in the new trilogy – and, even without knowing exactly what happens in Episode 7, it’s safe to assume that Episode 8 will share plenty of connections to the first six movies. For that reason, Johnson could get-double duty out of an Anakin flashback: enriching present events with original trilogy ties while also providing audiences with a memorable Anakin Skywalker fight sequence – one that fleshes out the prequels’ (often) wooden portrayal.

A less likely idea, but one that readers will bring up, could see the actor reprise Anakin for a Force Ghost cameo; though, the rumor clearly suggests that Christensen is “training” for the role. Last seen onscreen in 2014’s limited-Chinese-America release Outcast (with Nicolas Cage), Christensen is in much better shape than prior returning faces in the Star Wars universe – meaning that he’s already fit enough for Force Ghost duty. Instead, the mention of training suggests that if Christensen is in the film, he’ll be in a choreographed action flashback – not standing on the sidelines during present events.

Using a similar logic, it’s also likely that if the actor returns, he’ll be portraying Anakin or a pre-augmented version of Darth Vader (read: some time between Vader’s assault on the Jedi Temple and mutilation on Mustafar). If the original helmeted iteration of Vader was to appear for a flashback in Episode 8, what would be the point of training Christensen and placing him inside the costume – if the actor was going to be hidden underneath Vader armor for his entire appearance?

It’s hard to separate fact from fan-fiction at this point – especially since Star Wars: Episode 7 is still two years from release. This Anakin Skywalker “news” could just as easily be completely made-up or, at the very least, an idea that was floated but eventually rejected prior to production. Still, bringing Christensen back – under new direction – to potentially reframe how fans feel about his contribution to the Star Wars saga is an exciting idea – especially for viewers who believe that it was George Lucas’ directing, not Christensen’s capability, that undercut the punch of Anakin Skywalker’s journey from kid-hero to youngling killer.




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Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:37 pm to
I am of the hope that they completely ignore the prequels in the sequel trilogy and then proceed to reboot them completely after they are done. They were an abortion, and the mere concept of the Clone Wars just relieves every conflict possible.
Posted by LSUlefty
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:46 pm to
At least have an episode between 3 & 4.
Posted by Bham4Tide
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:53 pm to
I don't have a problem with it, can't see it being nothing more than a cameo.

Who knows, maybe the guy can get some sort of redemption. All the actors in the prequels sucked anyway, some more than others, and most of it was due to shitty dialogue and Lucas.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 10:57 pm to
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At least have an episode between 3 & 4.



Well, that's already confirmed: Rouge One. I'm just saying ignore all the prequels. The clones simply being storm troopers fighting droids is blasphemous.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 11:00 pm to
I'm very excited about Rogue One, I think Edwards has a lot to work with there. Hopefully he knocks it out of the park.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 11:03 pm to
Like it or not the prequels are canon. They will be referenced eventually.

Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 11:04 pm to
Besides the abortion that was the Phantom Menance the one thing that got me is how Anakin went to go arrest the Emperor and then just by being told a few things, not an hour later was hacking little kids to pieces. I'm sorry but the path from Jedi to Sith for Vader was done way too quickly and it really bothced the central point of the story. Had they made a set of prequels just exploring his change, and really focusing on the dark turn, then we could of got some great movies. Instead we got Jar Jar and the teenanger elected queen.
I never got that, so the people of Naboo elect a Prom Queen and she leads for six years then a new Prom Queen takes over. Their Senator is the most powerful man in the Galaxy-wide government, yet the queen is 15?

It just makes no sense. None of the prequels really make sense. We knew of the Clone wars, and of clone soldiers, but the entire build up to the wars was just bullshite. A unified galaxy and there was no extensional threat?
Horrible movies and while the third one is not horrible, and the second has a few decent scenes, they are a black mark on the Star Wars name.
Posted by applejacked
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Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 11:05 pm to
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Star Wars: Episode 7 is only a few short months from release

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since Star Wars: Episode 7 is still two years from release.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 11:10 pm to
Just make the Force Unleashed video game into a movie.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 11:28 pm to
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Besides the abortion that was the Phantom Menance the one thing that got me is how Anakin went to go arrest the Emperor and then just by being told a few things, not an hour later was hacking little kids to pieces. I'm sorry but the path from Jedi to Sith for Vader was done way too quickly


Yoda said Anakin was too old to start his training. Too bad nobody listen to him.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 11:31 pm to
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Like it or not the prequels are canon. They will be referenced eventually.



They have been referred to in the original trilogy, and that completely clashes with what we were told in the prequels. Seriously, listen about what Vader says about Obi Wan, and it's clearly not the same thing that happened in the prequels. The context lies in the subtleties. If you are to take their words for it, it's clear they had an Xavier/Magneto relationship, in that they constantly talked about the nature of the Force. Instead all that happened was they insulted each other and Obi Wan let Anakin burn alive. I can see why Vader would be quite pissed at his mentor years later, and may have not been up until the moment of their final duel.
This post was edited on 9/21/15 at 11:34 pm
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 11:34 pm to
it doesnt match b/c Obi Wan lied to Luke due to the shame of leaving Anakin to burn to death while bleeding out on that lava planet.

ain't no way Luke would have followed him had he known the real truth.



This post was edited on 9/21/15 at 11:41 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 11:40 pm to
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Besides the abortion that was the Phantom Menance the one thing that got me is how Anakin went to go arrest the Emperor and then just by being told a few things, not an hour later was hacking little kids to pieces. I'm sorry but the path from Jedi to Sith for Vader was done way too quickly and it really bothced the central point of the story. Had they made a set of prequels just exploring his change, and really focusing on the dark turn, then we could of got some great movies. Instead we got Jar Jar and the teenanger elected queen.



Yeah, definitely agree. Anakin didn't need to be a child murderer at the end of the prequels. 20 years in a suit where he can't drink, eat, breathe properly, or have sex (especially after murdering his loved one) is plenty of time and motive for him to turn into the mass murdering psychopath he becomes.

Plus Anakin wasn't tempted by the Dark Side, he was tricked by Palpatine in the name of love. Anakin should have consciously chosen the Dark Side, and I'd say the clear scene to do it in is murdering Mace Windu. It was clear from the start that his death by Anakin was the only point of his character, and it would have been great to see Anakin, Windu, and Darth Maul all converge in the same area, and with Windu having Anakin kicked out of the Jedi Order, Anakin chooses consciously to kill both of them, forming a 3 way duel. I just find it ridiculous Lucas never thought of this, since it would have been the best duel of all time, and been Anakin's true turn to the dark side instead of going down like a bitch.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 11:48 pm to
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it doesnt match b/c Obi Wan lied to Luke due to the shame of leaving Anakin to burn to death while bleeding out on that lava planet.



It's not really so much as what Obi Wan said, more as what Vader said. Like when Luke said Vader was wrong about the Force and his nature, Vader's response was "Obi Wan much thought the way you did". No, he didn't. He insulted and assaulted him. He thought Vader was pure evil at the end of it. Obi Wan never tried to reason with Anakin, nor did Anakin with Obi Wan, and that quote clearly implies that both tried to reason with the other into going with the other.

To me, it seems like Vader never understood that people don't seek the Force for anything but power, and that he couldn't stand that Obi Wan and Luke couldn't see his POV. In the end, Vader realized there were more important things that power, and that is how he redeemed himself. He finally understood what Luke and Obi Wan were talking about. His character should have always been obsessed with power, but it's clear that Lucas didn't understand this when he got back to the prequels.
Posted by Dr RC
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 11:49 pm to
I mean, look how few fricks Obi gives




lets not also forget that he chooses to chop off that ugly arse dudes arm in the Mos Eisley cantina when it would have been just as easy to use the force to make the two dudes that Luke made mad back off.

Instead, Obi wanted to look like a bad arse and chopped off some shite talkers arm.
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 12:00 am to
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I'm sorry but the path from Jedi to Sith for Vader was done way too quickly


I haven't read or watched anything other than the 6 movies, so I really don't know what other canon out there exist but the whole end of Episode 3 felt rushed.

It was like they knew they were coming to the end of the film and said, "Oh shite. The Jedi need to die, Storm Troopers need to be bad, Anakin needs an excuse to have the Vader suit, Padme needs to die, randomly names them Luke and Leia." etc.

There was just so much stuff near the end of Episode 3 that didn't exist in Episode 4 so they whitewashed it in the final 20 minutes of the film.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 7:28 am to
I don't know. People bitched about how the original star wars was like the wild west in space, and the newer trilogy was shiny and didn't belong. I'd love for them to go back and fill in the gap between the trilogies and show how things went to shite so fast.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 7:31 am to
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Star Wars 8: Will Hayden Christensen Return as Darth Vader?


Posted by Das Jackal
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2653 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 7:41 am to
While his acting was wooden, I wounder if anyone could have done better considering the terrible dialog they were given.
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