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re: Star Trek: TOS Watchers - S2 - Return to Tomorrow *Page 14*
Posted on 2/26/14 at 8:08 am to Ace Midnight
Posted on 2/26/14 at 8:08 am to Ace Midnight
Wednesday bump.
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:38 am to Ace Midnight
Another classic episode.
Nomad makes a good, menacing villain. The show's creators did a good job of making such a simple-looking object come alive.
Another great mind-meld performance by Nimoy.
A good stunt when Scotty was killed.
We tend to poke a little fun at Kirk's ability to talk machines to death, but I thought this one was really well done:
Nomad makes a good, menacing villain. The show's creators did a good job of making such a simple-looking object come alive.
Another great mind-meld performance by Nimoy.
A good stunt when Scotty was killed.
We tend to poke a little fun at Kirk's ability to talk machines to death, but I thought this one was really well done:
quote:
You're wrong! Jackson Roykirk, your creator, is dead! You have mistaken me for him, you are in error! You did not discover your mistake, you have made two errors. You are flawed and imperfect. And you have not corrected by sterilization, you have made three errors!
Posted on 2/27/14 at 1:24 pm to Master of Sinanju
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We tend to poke a little fun at Kirk's ability to talk machines to death, but I thought this one was really well done:
Easily one of Kirk's (and Shatner's) top 10, perhaps even top 5 moments in TOS.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 9:17 pm to Ace Midnight
This post was edited on 2/12/21 at 10:32 am
Posted on 2/27/14 at 9:27 pm to Thunder Tiger
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Secondly, I'm sure as a cost-saving method, the top portion of Nomad is the same bottom portion of the cloaking device in The Enterprise Incident.
I watched The Enterprise Incident earlier this week.
Here are (albeit Corel Draw versions) the M-4 (from Requiem for Methuselah), Nomad and the Romulan cloaking device (The Enterprise incident) for comparison.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 9:46 pm to Ace Midnight
Cool comparisons. I must've been thinking of Requiem where this portion was on the bottom.
Posted on 2/28/14 at 1:28 pm to Thunder Tiger
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Uhura speaks Swahili and English, and Nomad wipes her memory clean so that she can't talk at all.
I think it is understood that "wiped clean" wasn't exactly absolute. She had her higher order functions scrambled a bit and required retraining to recover their use. However, I do not believe it is canon that she started over from scratch there from a memory standpoint.
It was to differentiate between a mental "death" and a "physical" death - the first (Uhura) of which nomad couldn't fix and the second (Scotty) which he could. He said there was no damage to Uhura - had he "damaged" her, he could have fixed it.
At least that is the way I've always interpreted it. As she had known Swahili longer, she recovered that before English - makes sense.
This post was edited on 2/28/14 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:56 pm to Ace Midnight
Last call for The Changeling.
Tomorrow is "The Apple" - an episode affectionately known as the "Great Redshirt Massacre of 1967" and featured a very, very, very early screen appearance by David Soul - you guys know him as Hutch.
Tomorrow is "The Apple" - an episode affectionately known as the "Great Redshirt Massacre of 1967" and featured a very, very, very early screen appearance by David Soul - you guys know him as Hutch.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 3:15 pm to Ace Midnight
*THE APPLE*
The Great Redshirt Massacre of Stardate 3715.3.
A primitive, but peaceful, humanoid civilization exists seemingly to serve and advanced machine. The volatile nature of the terrain, flora and the advanced machine itself results in, ultimately 4 dead redshirts and Spock is injured. The machine also threatens the ship.
Kirk, Spock and McCoy race against the clock on the ground, while Scotty does the best he can to keep the NCC-1701 in orbit.
The Great Redshirt Massacre of Stardate 3715.3.
A primitive, but peaceful, humanoid civilization exists seemingly to serve and advanced machine. The volatile nature of the terrain, flora and the advanced machine itself results in, ultimately 4 dead redshirts and Spock is injured. The machine also threatens the ship.
Kirk, Spock and McCoy race against the clock on the ground, while Scotty does the best he can to keep the NCC-1701 in orbit.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 7:14 pm to Ace Midnight
I liked it. And yes, it was a bad day for the Redshirts. 
Reminds me a little of Return of the Archons, and to a lesser extent, I, Mudd, where a supposedly idealic existence comes at the price of lack of real freedom. They all seemed to have some Cold War overtones.
Reminds me a little of Return of the Archons, and to a lesser extent, I, Mudd, where a supposedly idealic existence comes at the price of lack of real freedom. They all seemed to have some Cold War overtones.
This post was edited on 3/2/14 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 3/2/14 at 7:24 pm to Ace Midnight
Commodore Wesley, uh I mean Capt. Dunsel got demoted.
This post was edited on 3/2/14 at 7:29 pm
Posted on 3/2/14 at 8:01 pm to dr smartass phd
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Commodore Wesley, uh I mean Capt. Dunsel got demoted.
Barry Russo actually played LtCdr Giotto before being "promoted" to being Commodore Wesley.
This post was edited on 3/2/14 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:36 am to Ace Midnight
What about the ending of this where Spock tries to paint Kirk as playing the role of Satan, while Kirk and McCoy very easily hit the softball pitch back at him?
One of my favorite endings in all of TOS.
One of my favorite endings in all of TOS.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 8:46 am to Ace Midnight
I bailed from the rewatch a long time ago, but I was bored end of last week and tore through season 1 and now I am past you guys.
This episode was definitely red shirt massacre.
I found it a bit hard to believe carnal nature was completely suppressed until they saw someone else getting it on.
This episode was definitely red shirt massacre.
I found it a bit hard to believe carnal nature was completely suppressed until they saw someone else getting it on.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 10:35 am to TigerMyth36
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I found it a bit hard to believe carnal nature was completely suppressed until they saw someone else getting it on.
Hutch was macking on ole girl pretty hard--
Posted on 3/4/14 at 2:22 pm to Ace Midnight
Keith Andes (Akuta) - was in pretty good shape for 47, especially at the time when actors did not exercise as much as they do today.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 7:19 am to Ace Midnight
Wednesday bump.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 8:51 am to Ace Midnight
Spock seemed to be an honorary Red Shirt this episode. He was attacked by the killer plant, struck by lightning, and had the near disaster with the exploding rock.
Some good scenes from Scotty in command of the Enterprise - "There's nothing left to try again. I guess you'll have to fire me, sir."
I also liked the scene where Spock was uncomfortably called on to explain the ways of "replacement" to the yeoman ( 
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This is also a good example of Spock and McCoy taking two contrasting, but in many ways both correct, viewpoints and Kirk having to choose between them. Of course, Vaal makes the choice easier by attacking the crew and ship. I wonder if Vaal had ignored them completely would Kirk still had interfered? Or would they leave the natives to live in stagnation?
Some good scenes from Scotty in command of the Enterprise - "There's nothing left to try again. I guess you'll have to fire me, sir."
quote:
"It, ah, does something for you."
"Yes, indeed it does, Captain. It makes me uncomfortable."
- Kirk and Spock, referring to the garlands given to Spock
I also liked the scene where Spock was uncomfortably called on to explain the ways of "replacement" to the yeoman ( ). This is also a good example of Spock and McCoy taking two contrasting, but in many ways both correct, viewpoints and Kirk having to choose between them. Of course, Vaal makes the choice easier by attacking the crew and ship. I wonder if Vaal had ignored them completely would Kirk still had interfered? Or would they leave the natives to live in stagnation?
Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:33 am to Master of Sinanju
Blasting through the seasons, It is quite apparent, Kirk wasn't really too interested in the Prime Directive.
I imagine even if Vaal had not attacked the ship, Kirk would have still found a way to screw up the poor little civilization.
I imagine even if Vaal had not attacked the ship, Kirk would have still found a way to screw up the poor little civilization.
Posted on 3/6/14 at 11:38 am to Master of Sinanju
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Spock seemed to be an honorary Red Shirt this episode. He was attacked by the killer plant, struck by lightning, and had the near disaster with the exploding rock.
This was both clever and subtle on the part of the writers - although the exploding rock showed a certain uncharacteristic carelessness - he survived the plant and the lightning - this reinforced the fact that Vulcans are much hardier than humans. Also, it demonstrated that the command crew was exposed to the same hazards as the redshirts - had Spock been human, the plant or lightning would have killed him.
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