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Saw The Witch yesterday evening *spoilers*

Posted on 3/21/18 at 4:44 pm
Posted by reo45
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 4:44 pm
That was well done and scary as hell.

The end with the Devil in disguise as the GOAT I did not see coming at all. That sincerely was nerve racking.

I raise goats and will be looking at them with the lazy eye from here on out. And will definitely watch my 6 around them. If you've seen the movie you know what I mean.

This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 11:20 pm
Posted by GeauxBayouBengals
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 4:52 pm to
I love it but it really depends on what kind of horror film you like. If you like the jump scares and gore, it's not for you. If you like horror films that are more of a slow burn and more unsettling and dreadful than "scary", then The Witch will be excellent for you. Neither style is better than the other, just a matter of taste. This one really stayed with me for days afterword.
Posted by reo45
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:01 pm to
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This one really stayed with me for days afterword.



It was the slow burn. I fins tht to be the best for me personally in terms of entertainment.

I had only ideas of where the plot was leading, but didnt grasp it until the end.

I still wonder if the Devil used the entire family to turn the daughter against her faith and family to recruit her into his fold. Seemed that was the goal the entire time. Drive the mother mad; then the father; cause extreme mentally and spiritual trauma in her own soul to the point of breaking; make her believe the things tht werent true (that she was almost destined to join his army).

Very well done as I said. I loke originality and thought put into quality horror. Horror is the hardest genre to produce and write in my opinion.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:21 pm to
The monologue by the dad where he starts eating dirt was like a master class on how to perform when given Shakespearean level writing.
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 5:23 pm
Posted by GeauxBayouBengals
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:28 pm to
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I still wonder if the Devil used the entire family to turn the daughter against her faith and family to recruit her into his fold.


Oh yes, there's not question that's what happened. The girl was left with no choice. To me, the greatest thing about the film is it explains why someone would become a witch. When you come to this realization, it makes the ending all the more sinister in its implications.
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 6:12 pm to
I believe she had a choice, but it wasnt ome that would likely ended well.

She could have told him to stick it in his arse and went back to town to tell of what had transpired.

Granted, they likely would have blamed her as a witch also as they were all nut jobs the story would seem to be back then.

As you said, the implications are as deafening and frightening as most horror stories Ive seen.

The Devil takes advantage of the human condition.

Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 6:40 pm to
Well done movie. I felt like I needed to go to church when it was over.
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 6:54 pm to
I really, really enjoyed it. But like you said, I'm a fan of the slow burn, psychological horror films.

Doesn't mean I'm not a fan of a good "gotcha" horror film though.

Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 7:11 pm to
Shows how religious folks can be taken advantage of by the Devil and those that follow him.

The family, like many today, get so caught up in their guilt and pentance that they forget about forgiveness. Devil uses this against men. The Devil also takes advantage of strife and contention between others to sow disconent and violence--we see this in society today.

But, in this story we see he has a goal. That goal was the young girl that was just hitting puberty (mocking of the virgin Mary?). Lot of parts to the story tht deserves a good write up about its meaning.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 7:51 pm to
I thought it was awful and overrated. Maybe I don't want to live deliciously.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:23 pm to
I liked the movie but did not find it scary at all
Posted by Uncle Gunnysack
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:43 pm to
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I raise goats


T&P
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:58 pm to
What was scary was that a person could go through so much inner turmoil: lose her entire family to delusion and lies casting her as something she is not (those that she loved accused her of being a witch), losing total faith in her father, thus her father in heaven ultimately, depend on a God that seemed to not be there for her comfort and guidance: her whole world came collapsing down on her..

Then she found him, the one who showed her that it was all an illusion, a lie, and that he would "show her the world". He wasnt talking about the material world, but greater.

The horror was in the story not rhe scare factor. But that goat talking with hooves was freaky still.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 11:07 pm to
One of my favorite horror movies. A slow burn that just builds dread and is pushed along by a chilling score. And Black Phillip is the GOAT.
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 11:08 pm to
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Oh yes, there's not question that's what happened. The girl was left with no choice. To me, the greatest thing about the film is it explains why someone would become a witch. When you come to this realization, it makes the ending all the more sinister in its implications.


To me it demonstrated that one type of religious fanaticism can push you to the other side.
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 11:21 pm to
The Witch isn't just a movie about Puritans, it's told from a Puritan point of view (the subtitle is A Puritan Folktale). Puritan theology is pretty dreadul in that it is very works based, and your level of suffering is a measure of whether or not you are right with God (that's the tl;dr).

Here, you have a family that leaves everything they know because they think they are following God, and instead, God allows Satan to drive them into madness in the woods, and then kills them. The witches were real, and they won, but the real terror to a Puritan is that God allowed it to happen, and it could happen to them as well.
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 11:27 pm to
Very well put. I believe that defines the beginning so well. The very beginning as he was banished from the community was a sort of banishment by God himself. Makes sense and very Job like as the wife mentions ahe was like Jobs wife herself.

Posted by P-Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 7:51 am to
I loved the movie right up until the last ten minutes or so, when they actually show the devil and then the witches in the woods. I still like the movie, but I think it would have been better to leave it as a goat in that scene, and skip the witches completely. Would have left some air of mystery as to whether everything really happened, or if it was all in the girl's head.

And while I'm always a fan of some titties, the scene with the witches floating in the air was silly, and didn't fit the mood of the rest of the movie at all.
Posted by GeauxBayouBengals
Member since Nov 2003
6153 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 12:47 pm to
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The Witch isn't just a movie about Puritans, it's told from a Puritan point of view (the subtitle is A Puritan Folktale). Puritan theology is pretty dreadul in that it is very works based, and your level of suffering is a measure of whether or not you are right with God (that's the tl;dr). Here, you have a family that leaves everything they know because they think they are following God, and instead, God allows Satan to drive them into madness in the woods, and then kills them. The witches were real, and they won, but the real terror to a Puritan is that God allowed it to happen, and it could happen to them as well.


I agree. I also think the message from the Puritan perspective is a cautionary tale about what happens when you leave the religious community. For them, the big sin committed was that the family left. God was not with them any longer outside of the group. Don’t ever leave, or the devil will get you too.
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 4:03 pm to
How would you define the scene where the baby disappeared?

Seems it would take unconventional wisdom to explain that away as in her head.
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