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Roman Empire: Reign of Blood

Posted on 11/16/16 at 8:38 am
Posted by GermantownTiger
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Posted on 11/16/16 at 8:38 am
Has anyone watched this on Netflix?
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10047 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 8:43 am to
Just got through the second episode. It's a little strange with the historian cut ins, but still pretty good.
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 11/16/16 at 8:46 am to
It's okay, they've taken some liberties with historical facts, but then again that's nothing new. I'm on the 2nd episode right now.
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 11/16/16 at 8:55 am to
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historical facts


I know what you're saying. But there's no such thing!
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
15919 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 10:11 am to
It is pretty well established fact that Cassius' revolt occurred when Commodus was 13 years old and too young to assume the throne. They portray him as a mid-20's frick up who only wanted to bang whores. He was too young to rule as emperor at that point, which was one reason for his mother to seek Cassius' help... not because she knew her son was unfit to rule. That just makes for a more intriguing program.

Yes, much of history is skewed and from the perspective of the victor, but the Roman's went to great lengths to provide meticulous accounts of the goings on in their empire. Things such as birth year and the year of a revolt are generally accurate.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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89528 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 10:17 am to
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It is pretty well established fact that Cassius' revolt occurred when Commodus was 13 years old and too young to assume the throne. They portray him as a mid-20's frick up who only wanted to bang whores.


The problem with the "big 3" (shitty Roman emperors that everyone knows their names) - Caligula, Nero and Commodus is that the public gets them all jumbled up in our collective minds.

Were any of them as bad as Valentinian III? Probably not. But outside of historians, nobody knows about Valentinian. But everyone knows Little Boots, the fiddler and the wannabe gladiator. It just is what it is.

Enjoy it for what it is - entertainment in the key of history.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8003 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 10:41 am to
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The problem with the "big 3" (shitty Roman emperors that everyone knows their names) - Caligula, Nero and Commodus is that the public gets them all jumbled up in our collective minds.

Were any of them as bad as Valentinian III? Probably not. But outside of historians, nobody knows about Valentinian. But everyone knows Little Boots, the fiddler and the wannabe gladiator. It just is what it is.

Enjoy it for what it is - entertainment in the key of history.


The third century never gets much play in popular culture, but it was pretty much one horrifically bad emperor after another for almost sixty years until Aurelian finally came along. Caracalla and Elagabalus by themselves probably deserve shows or screen depiction.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 11/16/16 at 10:57 am to
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but the Roman's went to great lengths to provide meticulous accounts of the goings on in their empire





wait...


Posted by Ace Midnight
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89528 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 11:14 am to
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The third century never gets much play in popular culture, but it was pretty much one horrifically bad emperor after another for almost sixty years until Aurelian finally came along.


You're right, of course, but the chaos itself is much of the story, not the numerous "Emperors" that had either joint reigns, or disputed reigns, serving from a few days to 4 or 5 years, that was the rule throughout the century, at least until Diocletian to finish out - even after Aurelian, there was instability and high turnover until 284 (and even Diocletian named a co-emperor and "junior" co-emperors - most likely in a consensus building effort to restore something like stability.)

Diocletian is intriguing in and of himself, but there isn't enough drama there to entertain the modern plebes.

Posted by Boo Krewe
Member since Apr 2015
9810 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 5:24 pm to
movie on nero would be tight or tiberius


I feel like roman emperors lived on another level, no human will live like them again
Posted by NastyTiger
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Member since Jun 2005
11271 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 7:01 pm to
It's pretty meh to me. I've watched 3 episodes and I'd rate it 2.5-3 stars.. I figured I would have loved it, also.
Posted by Duzz
Houston
Member since Feb 2008
9966 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 9:09 pm to
I will never watch it because I cannot stand the incestous frick. Yes, Gladiator jaded me.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8003 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 12:06 am to

Diocletian is intriguing in and of himself, but there isn't enough drama there to entertain the modern plebes.


I was actually thinking of this recently: emperors like Diocletian and Constantine never get their screen due. Maybe because I am contemplating too much on the direction of the American Empire, but it'd be interesting to see what the reception would be now.

Aureliean, Diocletian, Constantine, Valentinian II, Theodosius, Honorius, et al. A lot of emperors who had as much, if not more, impact on Western culture than did the first few after the usurpation of the realm or the the 2nd century Mighty Five.

I'd love to see a movie one day on Constantine or Diocletian. You can make an entire epic series just on their lives.
Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
76309 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 4:20 pm to
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love to see a movie one day on Constantine or Diocletian. You can make an entire epic series just on their lives.

I'd love this. There are countless interesting battles, events, personalities throughout history that have gotten scant attention. It's why I'm always frustrated that we get non stop WW2 movies at the exclusion of anything else.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89528 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 4:32 pm to
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I'd love to see a movie one day on Constantine or Diocletian.


Just no way - if they even tried it, it would some kind of abortion with explosions and jet chariots and shite.

Now, a quality Netflix, HBO or Amazon original series in 10 to 15 parts? Sign me up.
Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
76309 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 5:14 pm to
One would think that Constantine's story would have a viable market due to his significance in Christianity
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 7:32 pm to
Dem titties though
Posted by stevo1905
Member since Nov 2010
2082 posts
Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:31 pm to
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Yes, much of history is skewed and from the perspective of the victor, but the Roman's went to great lengths to provide meticulous accounts of the goings on in their empire.
Not really. Much of the major histories were recorded by seven or eight sources such as Plutarch, Dio, Suetonius, Livy, etc. They were detailed in certain aspects but many were recorded decades later or biased towards a Roman-favored narrative. The years of the monarchy prior to the republic are mostly conjecture, even to the Romans themselves. Every piece of source material that survives describing the story of Spartacus can be compiled into around 15 pages, with only a couple devoting more than a paragraph.
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
22925 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 12:42 am to
Diocletian was a right bastard as well! He is rarely mentioned but was a brutal despot like the others.
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