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Question on the Imperial Senate (Star Wars)

Posted on 2/20/17 at 8:20 am
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
9765 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 8:20 am
Has this ever been explored? If Palpatine was granted emergency powers, what purpose does the senate serve? Why was the Empire so afraid of the Senate finding out about the deathstar?

If they were so easily dissolved in the opening minutes of Episode IV, I can't imagine they held any real power.
Posted by paladine36
Member since Feb 2013
1478 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 8:23 am to
They have control of the Fleet of the Empire.
Which wouldve been able to stop Palpatine.
shite, just the few ships Akbar steals is enough to fight them. Just Imagine 100+ more cruisers and destroyers on the Rebel side.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
9765 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 8:26 am to
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They have control of the Fleet of the Empire.


Where is this mentioned, and why wouldn't Palpatine basically be like, "ok well, you no longer have control of the fleet?"
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
8906 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 9:01 am to
Although once declared Emperor, Palpatine technically had complete control of the galaxy, in reality that control was tenuous and based on his ability to effectively respond to the Separatist threat (remember, the Republic was already fractured when he took it over). If he tried to wield too much power too quickly, the Senate could have tried to repeal his emergency powers, which would have resulted in a messy situation for him at best. It was only once the Death Star was complete, and the Empire had demonstrated the ability to completely destroy any planet which resisted them, that he could throw off the final trappings of the Republic.

"Fear will keep the outlying systems in line. Fear of this battle station." - Grand Moff Tarkin
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
12748 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 9:46 am to
I always assumed it functioned like the Roman Senate under Augustus.

The Senate handled administrative affairs that didn't require military intervention. They were also allowed to consult on new laws, but the Emperor had the final say.

The senators would also be the primary contact for the regional governors. Palpatine tells the Senate what needs to be done, the Senators then direct the governors. And coming the other way, if there is an issue in a system, the governor contacts the senator who can then bring it to the Emperor.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30886 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 9:49 am to
The Senate wielded a lot of power still, but imagine the US Senate if there were, like, 5-6 factions. No one group had enough power to solidify a base.

If Palpatine had gone forward with too much too fast, the systems would have colluded and stripped him of his power.

Once the Separatists were defeated, the Jedi attempt at his arrest gave him a second enemy to focus on, letting him keep his power.

It's a bit of a warning - don't let fear lead to giving one person too much power.
Posted by sbr2
Member since Apr 2011
15013 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 10:44 am to
I AM THE SENATE!
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
9765 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 10:54 am to
quote:

If Palpatine had gone forward with too much too fast, the systems would have colluded and stripped him of his power.


Didn't happen with Obama. Might happen with Trump
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
8906 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 11:15 am to
Not once Trump completes the Death Star.
Posted by Snoopy04
Republic of Texas
Member since Aug 2015
3015 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:05 pm to
quote:


Didn't happen with Obama. Might happen with Trump

People come to this board to escape the real world shenanigans. Keep that true political garbage in the poliboard.
Posted by BamaSaint
Mobile, Al
Member since Mar 2013
2964 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:17 pm to
quote:


I always assumed it functioned like the Roman Senate under Augustus.

Good comparison. I was going to mention Rome as well.
Ask Caesar how not working with the Senate after taking control went for him
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25197 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

I always assumed it functioned like the Roman Senate under Augustus.



Well poop. You said exactly was I was going to say. Darn you!
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 3:29 pm to
Empire did nothing wrong. The depicted conflict between Palpatine and the Senate was fabricated propaganda by the rebel terrorists to try to sow the seeds of instability in the illustrious Empire.

Also, Alderaan fired first.

This post was edited on 2/20/17 at 3:30 pm
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
28878 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:03 pm to
Not yet!
Posted by SamuraiJack
Member since Feb 2017
60 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:43 pm to
yoda shouldve fought palpatine instead of running
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18568 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 5:27 pm to
The Senate was an illusion of democracy. Without it, most of the Galaxy would rebel. With the Death Star, Palpatine could Just destroy rebellious planets. Once the Death Star was destroyed, the destruction of the Empire as the Galaxy knew it was inevitable. The Imperial fleet got stretched too thin.
Posted by LSUGlory16
Mville
Member since Jun 2014
1133 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 6:25 pm to
Did Dooku know the whole time his master was leader of the senate?
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
28878 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 6:37 pm to
Absolutely.

In fact, I would assume that Palpatine instructed Dooku to create the Separatists because he was the Chancellor. Dooku did almost all of Palpatine's dirty work offscreen so that people didn't suspect him.

He even said in the Attack of the Clones to Obi Wan, "What if I told you that the Republic was now under the control of a dark lord of the Sith? The Dark Side has clouded their vision. Hundreds of senators are now under the influence of a Sith lord called Darth Sidious."
This post was edited on 2/20/17 at 6:38 pm
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18568 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 7:22 pm to
Yes.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 8:09 pm to
quote:

Empire did nothing wrong. The depicted conflict between Palpatine and the Senate was fabricated propaganda by the rebel terrorists to try to sow the seeds of instability in the illustrious Empire.



"alternative facts"
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