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Question about end of Interstellar: Dr Brandt (SPOILERS)
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:40 pm
At the end of Interstellar, young Dr. Brandt is seen stranded on Edmund's planet, which appears habitable.
Is the camp she has set up for the purpose of executing plan B and creating a new human colony? Does she even have the fertilized human eggs still or were they destroyed on Miller's ice planet when he caused the spacecraft to explode?
Is the camp she has set up for the purpose of executing plan B and creating a new human colony? Does she even have the fertilized human eggs still or were they destroyed on Miller's ice planet when he caused the spacecraft to explode?
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:44 pm to south bama tiger
We don't know. It's ambiguous. And lazy.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:52 pm to athenslife101
It's kind of irrelevant. Plan A worked.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:53 pm to south bama tiger
Official Interstellar thread on the first page. I'm sure this point has been discussed already. You'll probably find that it doesn't matter what she's doing, that's not the point of the film. Besides, she didn't have a choice on where to go, so setting up camp there was her only viable known option besides sure death.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:53 pm to south bama tiger
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Is the camp she has set up for the purpose of executing plan B and creating a new human colony? Does she even have the fertilized human eggs still or were they destroyed on Miller's ice planet when he caused the spacecraft to explode?
my understanding was that Miller took the eggs to the docking station when he betrayed them. How they survived the explosion that Miller then caused, I'm not sure. It took it as Brand had set up the site B with fertilized eggs to start a new race and that race was the group that was smart enough to create the black hole.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 2:32 pm to athenslife101
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We don't know. It's ambiguous. And lazy.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 2:48 pm to Warfarer
That's a cool way to think of it. I hadn't thought of that.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 2:53 pm to Warfarer
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my understanding was that Miller took the eggs to the docking station when he betrayed them. How they survived the explosion that Miller then caused, I'm not sure. It took it as Brand had set up the site B with fertilized eggs to start a new race and that race was the group that was smart enough to create the black hole.
Yep, same here.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 5:39 pm to Warfarer
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hat race was the group that was smart enough to create the black hole.
I dont understand this part. Are you saying that they evolved independently of other humans through isolation?
Posted on 12/7/14 at 6:00 pm to south bama tiger
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Is the camp she has set up for the purpose of executing plan B and creating a new human colony? Does she even have the fertilized human eggs still or were they destroyed on Miller's ice planet when he caused the spacecraft to explode?
She has hope that the humans will find her and she sent out the signal for all of humanity to come to her, but she's not counting on it and is enacting Plan B regardless.
And yes the Embryo's survived the explosion.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 6:01 pm to athenslife101
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We don't know. It's ambiguous. And lazy.
It wasn't at all ambiguous. It was pretty clear.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 6:03 pm to Warfarer
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my understanding was that Miller took the eggs to the docking station when he betrayed them. How they survived the explosion that Miller then caused, I'm not sure. It took it as Brand had set up the site B with fertilized eggs to start a new race and that race was the group that was smart enough to create the black hole.
Just rewatched it the other day, and as soon as they dock, Brand goes to the embryonic chamber and checks on them and sees they survived the explosion. I think only on chamber was really screwed, and not then rest of them.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 6:06 pm to SundayFunday
Without the black hole and time travel aspect plan A would have failed. Humanity that was on earth would have died out. The plan B colony would have been the only surviving humanity. They would have simply evolved as the only remaining humanity to higher beings who could manipulate time. This is assuming that the beings who helped with the wormholes and time portal in the black hole are in fact humanity's descendants.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 6:09 pm to SundayFunday
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I dont understand this part. Are you saying that they evolved independently of other humans through isolation?
It's a little convoluted, but I think so.
Brand (the daughter) lands on Edmund's planet with the embryos...
which allows the descendants of those embryos in the VERY far future to develop the technology to create the tesseract...
which allows Cooper to relay TARS' gravity data back to Murphy through her morse code watch...
which allows her to solve Brand's (the father's) equations...
which allows the humans to build the spaceships and get off the planet...
which allows them to save Cooper when the tesseract spits him back out near the wormhole next to Saturn...
which allows Cooper to reunite with Murphy and realize that his life has passed him by...
which prompts him to go back into the wormhole and start a new life with Brand and the embryos...
which allows the embryos to survive and to become the beings that build the tesseract and the wormhole.
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 12/7/14 at 6:13 pm to TigerstuckinMS
Unless it's a combo of original humanity and those raised from the embryos, there's no way it was the Embryo descendants alone who did this since they wouldn't have gone through the wormhole in the first place. It could a combination or the original humanity, or even a branch of humanity who barely survived Earth but wanted to change it to a brighter future than their past was, but there's no way it was solely the embryo descendants. It's an unbelievable paradox if that's the case.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 6:14 pm to SundayFunday
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I dont understand this part. Are you saying that they evolved independently of other humans through isolation?
I don't see it as through isolation, I see it as just different circumstances. Brand said that those genetics were the best of what we had to offer and diverse so you can assume they found smart genetics instead of the watered down idiocracy genetics we have on this planet now.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 6:19 pm to Warfarer
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I don't see it as through isolation, I see it as just different circumstances. Brand said that those genetics were the best of what we had to offer and diverse so you can assume they found smart genetics instead of the watered down idiocracy genetics we have on this planet now.
Well, just because they're intelligent and genetically diverse doesn't mean all that much. It's basically a requirement. Plan B, even if you're able to birth some humans, is still a long shot on what the hell the first two generations would do to each other. It's still very likely to devolve into a Lord of the Flies scenario.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 6:24 pm to OMLandshark
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Well, just because they're intelligent and genetically diverse doesn't mean all that much. It's basically a requirement. Plan B, even if you're able to birth some humans, is still a long shot on what the hell the first two generations would do to each other. It's still very likely to devolve into a Lord of the Flies scenario.
or it could go the other way altogether. Or a group of sexy alien chicks came by through the new galaxy, picked all the guys and had space orgies through a bunch of other galaxies where the human men ended up stealing some tech and started a wormhole on accident.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 6:25 pm to OMLandshark
I don't understand your issue with the embryo descendents setting up the wormhole etc on their own.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 6:25 pm to Warfarer
It happened the way OMLandshark and RollTide says it happened. End of story. They will fight you until the earth is taken over by The Blight. Trust me, let it go.
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