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Preacher TV series casting, thus far

Posted on 5/5/15 at 1:50 pm
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 5/5/15 at 1:50 pm
Looks like last month they announced that Dominic Cooper will be playing Jesse Custer.

Dominic Cooper as Jesse Custer:




I'm so-so on this. He kind of looks the part, but Jesse is supposed to be a bad arse. I don't know anything about Dominic Cooper, and what roles he's played, so he may be a great fit and I'm just missing it.

Ruth Negga as Tulip O'Hare:




This one confuses me. Tulip is not black, or Filipino, or blackanese, or whatever Ruth Negga is. I hate when writers/producers do this; change the ethnicity and/or sex of a beloved character. I guess its an attempt to be edgy, but it always feels like pandering to me. At first glance, I hate this casting choice. But, I know nothing about Ruth Negga, and the roles she's played, so she may be perfect for this role.

Josph Gilgun as Cassidy:



This choice seems spot on. It really isn't that hard to cast Cassidy; the guy needs to be ugly, skinny, Irish, and drunk

Ian Colletti as Arseface:




Not much to say here. Whoever plays Arseface will have a ton of prostetics on his face anyway, except for any flashback scenes.

I'm still very excited about this series. Preacher is one of my favorite comics. The "Until the End of the World" story arc is one of the greatest comic stories ever told. I'm looking forward to seeing Jesse, Tulip, and Cassidy finally fleshed out.




This post was edited on 5/5/15 at 1:53 pm
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 5/5/15 at 2:02 pm to
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Dominic Cooper as Jesse Custer:


Would have preferred Timothy Olyphant, but I'm optimistic about Cooper.

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Ruth Negga as Tulip O'Hare:


No problem with this. Solid actress and if they choose to address the race thing at all, they could use it to explain some of Jesse's family's animosity.

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Josph Gilgun as Cassidy:


Spot on.

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Ian Colletti as Arseface:


Meh
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 5/5/15 at 2:04 pm to
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Timothy Olyphant


He's kind of old to be Jesse, no?

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they could use it to explain some of Jesse's family's animosity.


With Jesse's family being as it is, I don't think they will need anything else to explain his family issues.

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Meh


It could really go either way. Pre-Arseface, he was supposed to be a grunge rocker type. But I don't think its all that important.
This post was edited on 5/5/15 at 2:08 pm
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 5/5/15 at 2:19 pm to
I love that they cast B list Billy Bob Thornton (W. Earl Brown) as Sheriff Root:



He just looks like a guy named Hugo Root.
Posted by LucasP
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Posted on 5/5/15 at 2:23 pm to
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I guess its an attempt to be edgy,


You really need to add edginess to a story about professional rapists, heroin-addicted vampires and....



(Major Spoilers)























....... a holy man's campaign to kill God?
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 5/5/15 at 2:55 pm to
Ruth Negga is Ethiopian.

She is best known as Raina from Agents of SHIELD
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 5/5/15 at 3:05 pm to
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This one confuses me. Tulip is not black, or Filipino, or blackanese, or whatever Ruth Negga is. I hate when writers/producers do this; change the ethnicity and/or sex of a beloved character. I guess its an attempt to be edgy, but it always feels like pandering to me. At first glance, I hate this casting choice. But, I know nothing about Ruth Negga, and the roles she's played, so she may be perfect for this role.


And I've never understood fanboys' craziness about a character's race. Who cares?

Is there whiteness inherent to the character? Does the character absolutely NEED to be white for some reason? No? Then who gives a frick.

shite, I've argued many times than James Bond doesn't NEED to be white. He just needs to be British.
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 5/5/15 at 3:46 pm to
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I love that they cast B list Billy Bob Thornton (W. Earl Brown) as Sheriff Root:


Seriously? I hadn't read that. If true, that's awesome.
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 5/5/15 at 3:49 pm to
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Is there whiteness inherent to the character?


Sometimes, yes. But why does it have to change? Does it improve the story any? Is it a change that was needed? Was there some shortage of aspiring, white, blonde actresses that day?

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Does the character absolutely NEED to be white for some reason?


Does she need to be white? I suppose not. But why not make Harry Potter black or Black Panther white? I mean race doesn't matter, right?

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I've argued many times than James Bond doesn't NEED to be white. He just needs to be British.


But does he really NEED to be British? Seems kind of strange. Why not make him Persian or Eskimo? Who cares, right?
This post was edited on 5/5/15 at 3:57 pm
Posted by La Place Mike
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Posted on 5/5/15 at 6:32 pm to
I don't know anything about the comic or the show but this guy does not look like a bad arse.

Well maybe a bad arse barista.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
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Posted on 5/5/15 at 6:40 pm to
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Ruth Negga

gonna have to be careful pronouncing that name
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 5/5/15 at 8:16 pm to
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I don't know anything about the comic or the show but this guy does not look like a bad arse. Well maybe a bad arse barista.


I get that vibe too. I guess he's supposed to have sex appeal for the ladies?

This post was edited on 5/5/15 at 8:17 pm
Posted by La Place Mike
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Posted on 5/5/15 at 8:18 pm to
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. I guess he's supposed to have sex appeal for the ladies?
More like the gheys.
Posted by PattyRay38
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Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:43 pm to
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And I've never understood fanboys' craziness about a character's race. Who cares?

Is there whiteness inherent to the character? Does the character absolutely NEED to be white for some reason? No? Then who gives a frick.

shite, I've argued many times than James Bond doesn't NEED to be white. He just needs to be British.


Ok, this post made me want to chime in, as discussions regarding "why can't this character be something other than white" are ones that really irk me. Let's go with the easier of my two responses to this. In terms of comic book adaptations, the reason "fanboys" get so worked up over the race of a character changing is because comics are a visual medium. Let's think about "The Shawshank Redemption" for a second. The Morgan Freeman character of "Red" was a white Irish man in the original Stephen King story but made black in the film. Why is changing the character's race acceptable here? A short story is a non-visual medium. Aside from a one-line mention of Red's backstory, he becomes something of a formless character who exists mostly on feeling and emotion. But comics are a medium that has always been a melding between story and visual, and as such, longstanding fanboys know what a character is supposed to look like and when an adaptation shifts from that, it bothers those fans. In the case of Tulip in Preacher, Tulip is Tulip O'Hare. Her name is Irish, and her backstory of her and her father is one where he is portrayed as a "good ole' boy" who comes to see the error of seeing a girl as being just one way. Can this work with Tulip being black? Possibly. Hell, probably. Doesn't change the fact that I, as a fan of the comic, am not getting what I read about in the comic visually, and yeah, it irks me. Sorry. And to counter that it's only when adaptations are white made into black, when it was rumored that The Rock might play John Stewart Green Lantern, I was against that because as, though he is half black he looks closer to his Samoan heritage, I didn't feel he resembled John Stewart enough and that a fully black actor should get the role instead.

What really irks he, though, is the comment "Is there whiteness inherent to the character?" I hate this comment, as it makes being white nothing but a placeholder. People who are white encompass many diverse cultures, from Irish to Italian to German and so on. I find this comment insulting, as if my cultural background doesn't matter and can simply be replaced without a thought.

Look, I get that superhero movies, being populated with characters created when diversity wasn't a thing, have a tendency to be pretty lily white at times. But you know how to combat that? Bring in the diversity THAT ALREADY EXISTS! Adding Falcon to Captain America: The Winter Soldier. Having War Machine be a co-star in the Iron Man films. The idea of using John Stewart GL in the Justice League movie. Also, the fact that the general public doesn't know these characters more often than not means the studios could use lesser known characters of color and, as long as the filmmakers do the characters right, non comic fan filmgoers (or TV viewers) wouldn't know those lesser known diverse characters aren't heavy hitters.

And the James Bond argument is so damn stupid. Until the Daniel Craig Bond films (which were reboots of the entire Bond series), regardless of an actor change, it was always supposed to be the same James Bond. All that was being done was that the timeline was constantly sliding to adjust. A black Bond would only work if one of two things happen:
1) After Daniel Craig, they reboot again and go with a black actor as Bond or
2) After Craig leaves the role, they institute the old fan theory that James Bond is not a person but only an alias given to the agent who takes over the 007 role.

Just my 2 cents
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 5/6/15 at 10:38 am to
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PattyRay38


Have an upvote, sir.
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