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re: Plinkett Reviews: Ghostbuster Female Reboot; Review Up Now!

Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:30 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:30 pm to
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Rey didn't work though. She was a 2D character and there was very little redeeming about her or FA



Rey has the potential to be one of the great movie heroines. That introductory scene of her was out of a Miyazaki film. I don't see any major shortcomings of her when compared to Luke in the original trilogy. She's fine and was easy too root for.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71499 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:08 pm to
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The simplest explanation is the most likely. 2016 Ghostbusters was complete garbage that critics pretended to like because they didn't want to be lumped in with sexists.



It's my go to argument for virtue signaling. Anyone who legit likes this movie is a fricking liar.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39267 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:15 pm to
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I'm shocked that he went after Bill Murray as hard as he did. Like that was just vicious at the end.

I don't understand why hipsters are so obsessed with Bill Murray. He isn't that special.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:17 pm to
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Rey didn't work though. She was a 2D character and there was very little redeeming about her or FA



I hate you so much.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71499 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:22 pm to
Let's break this shite down like a cardboard box trying to fit in the trash can.

I fricking lost it.
Posted by DrunkerThanThou
Unfortunately Mississippi
Member since Feb 2013
2846 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:26 pm to
The prequels were bad movie but FA did nothing for the universe as a whole. I would've taken a new KOTOR over it. FA felt like just another one of the million reboots and sequels coming out now. They had a whole extended universe to pull from. It was unoriginal on purpose
This post was edited on 8/8/17 at 10:28 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109076 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:33 pm to
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The prequels were bad movie but FA did nothing for the universe as a whole.


The point of it was basically a reboot and to give us characters we could connect to. I believe they succeeded in that. Ghostbusters failed in every single way possible.

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I would've taken a new KOTOR over it.


I'd be shocked if KOTOR isn't made into a movie in the next 10 if not 5 years. It's a simple a sure fire slam dunk, especially from the disaster it seems we're going to be getting from Han Solo.

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They had a whole extended universe to pull from. It was unoriginal on purpose


Well, yeah. Do you not remember the prequels? I have absolutely no doubt that Abrams watched the Plinkett reviews extensively to make sure he could pass his tests. He pulled it off. What Abrams needed to do more than anything else is create new and enticing characters with the original as its foundation and bring in old characters. I'd say TFA was a complete success. I wouldn't have changed almost any of that even in retrospect. It's exactly what it needed to be.
This post was edited on 8/8/17 at 10:34 pm
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:51 pm to
I CLAPPED! I CLAPPED BECAUSE IT SAID GHOSTBUSTERS!
Posted by DrunkerThanThou
Unfortunately Mississippi
Member since Feb 2013
2846 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:00 pm to
I get the argument about needing to reboot it for a next generation. However the movie did nothing for me. Finn is a crappy halfassed kyle katarn. Jaina solo vs Jacen > Rey vs Emo Vader. The whole maz orange alien was jar jar level cringeworthy (too on the nose). Abrams made a massive universe full of lore seem like it was smaller than Perkins Rowe. I get what they were trying to do but I just never bought into it. Rogue squadron was a infinitely better in my book
This post was edited on 8/8/17 at 11:02 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109076 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:03 pm to
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Jaina solo vs Jacen > Rey vs Emo Vader.


Got where you're coming from now. I had to argue with your ilk for like 2 years that they weren't going to take the Extended Universe into account. I granted yall they would probably take Thrawn, which they have, to meet their own ends when it meant something, but would just destroy the rest of it.

Sorry Extended Universe Fanboy, but it's gone. They were never, ever going to take novels that made less than 6 figures into consideration.
Posted by DrunkerThanThou
Unfortunately Mississippi
Member since Feb 2013
2846 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:05 pm to
Haha fair enough but what is the internet good for if you can't bitch about things that don't really matter
This post was edited on 8/8/17 at 11:07 pm
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36140 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:11 pm to
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I'm shocked that he went after Bill Murray as hard as he did. Like that was just vicious at the end.


I don't understand why hipsters are so obsessed with Bill Murray. He isn't that special.



When talking to people who don't understand why 21st century Bill Murray isn't great just ask them to explain how his performance would have been different if it was him just pretending to be a Wes Anderson character in every movie since 1998.

I think the only thing I've really enjoyed him doing in the last two decades was his bit part in Zombieland... because he made fun of his role in Garfield.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109076 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:12 pm to
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I think the only thing I've really enjoyed him doing in the last two decades was his bit part in Zombieland... because he made fun of his role in Garfield.



"Lost in Translation" I would say is my favorite performance of his.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36140 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:32 pm to
I understand that. And having lived in other countries I get parts of that movie that I don't think people who haven't lived overseas are likely to enjoy.

But I've found my enjoyment of his performance in that movie greatly undermined by the upteen odd movies he's done lately in that same vein of performance. It ends up feeling like a modern art show in which every canvass in the building is a slightly different shade of gray.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109076 posts
Posted on 8/8/17 at 11:35 pm to
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But I've found my enjoyment of his performance in that movie greatly undermined by the upteen odd movies he's done lately in that same vein of performance. It ends up feeling like a modern art show in which every canvass in the building is a slightly different shade of gray.



Understandable.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39737 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 6:20 am to
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Anyone who legit likes this movie is a fricking liar.

Na. Plenty of people just have shite for taste.

Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76541 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 7:28 am to
Me, for instance. I liked it. Laughed my hurt off. Of course I never held the ghostbusters franchise to be sacrosanct.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 7:47 am to
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The prequels were bad movie but FA did nothing for the universe as a whole.


I am so tired of this bullshite retarded line.

Let's see what happens in The Last Jedi. TFA was an introduction to the characters. And it did its job very well.

I liked Kylo's villain alot. He's struggling with the Dark side and the light side. He's young and untrained but powerful. It'll be interesting to see his transformation with Snoke in the next movie. He slaughters an entire town of innocent people, stops bullets midair, kills his own dad, beats the frick out of Finn, etc.... And he still a young apprentice with no training.

And Rey was a cool character too. Raised in a desert junk yard fending for herself, growing up hearing about and believing in the legends of the Jedi.

Poe was a solid side character, I even like Finn's character. We never got a behind the scenes look at storm Troopers. That was an interesting take.

I'm convinced that a certain group of people were never going to be satisfied with TFA. Sure it had some flaws, but what movie doesn't.

Hell you can't even look at the original trilogy as a comparison. Because everyone wants to compare TFA to the entire first trilogy. Which is bullshite and unfair.

Let's see what happens with The Last Jedi.

Look at just the original Star Wars.

No Yoda, you don't know Vader is Luke's father, Luke is untrained and basically just a pilot, Vader is cool but not nearly on the level he gets to after Empire, the Emperor isn't shite yet, etc...

And yet everyone wants to say TFA was a shitty movie. It was the first movie in a trilogy. It did exactly what it was supposed to do. It set up the universe and it introduced the characters.

I've watched it over and over again since it came out and I like it more each time.
This post was edited on 8/9/17 at 7:56 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99131 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 8:33 am to
I blame Google (and other Internet search engines) for killing the ability (or desire) to suspend disbelief when it comes to sci-fi.

Back in the 70s and 80s (when sci-fi and horror were ruling the day), your only chance to look "behind the curtain" on these films was to read fan magazines, or maybe catch a TV special (there were a number of them about Star Wars - for those who remember). Also, if you wanted to "dig deep" into the science in these films (for the purposes of questioning it or shitting on it), you had to do just that - go digging.

Today, with just a few clicks and keywords, you can disassemble any movie (or, find a youtuber or blogger that has already done it) within about 60 seconds.

It sucks.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 8/9/17 at 8:35 am to
knowing the trick doesn't ruin the trick.


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