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Paradise Lost: The Child Murders at Robin Hood Hills HBO Documentary
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:30 am
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:30 am
I just watched this documentary as well as the two that followed,
Just curious if any of you have seen this before, and what's your thoughts on their guilt or innocence?
Just curious if any of you have seen this before, and what's your thoughts on their guilt or innocence?
This post was edited on 5/31/17 at 10:43 am
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Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:33 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
Just posted this in a thread the other day about someone looking for documentaries. I believe they are innocent and it was the dad they suspected later on with the black man from the restaraunt and the other guy that ran to california. I guess its been said those 3 were doing drugs in the woods and somehow the little kids were there.
HBO has really made some great documentaries.
HBO has really made some great documentaries.
This post was edited on 5/31/17 at 10:34 am
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:34 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
as is typical of true crime docs, there is a ton of evidence that shows that those 3 guys are guilty that got left out.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:35 am to LEASTBAY
I agree with you about Echols and his friends either doing drugs or trying some occult stuff in the woods and being innocent of all accusations.
The dad is very suspicious.
The dad is very suspicious.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:42 am to Keys Open Doors
Im not saying echols was doing drugs. Terry Hobbs I think was in the woods doing drugs, maybe something hard like PCP.
I think Echols aand his friends were just being rebellious teenagers. One of the weirdest things which isnt really related is how Echols met his wife and they were married. Just thinking that the lady must be pretty strange.
I think Echols aand his friends were just being rebellious teenagers. One of the weirdest things which isnt really related is how Echols met his wife and they were married. Just thinking that the lady must be pretty strange.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:42 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
quote:
Just curious if any of you have seen this before, and what's your thoughts on their guilt or innocence?
They were unequivocally innocent. DNA evidence isn't 'speculation,' it's foolproof science, although I understand some of the mouthbreathers here distrust modern scientific progress. You don't have a "Satanic blood orgy" without leaving a drop of DNA behind. Terry Hobbs is 100% the murderer. They recovered his hair from the binding tying one of the boy's wrists together. In any city worth a shite he'd be in prison. Frick that entire shite town.
Echols did them no favors with his attitude however. I can understand on a superficial level why he was a suspect at the initial stages.
This post was edited on 5/31/17 at 10:45 am
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:42 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
Damian is an attention whore but they didn't kill those kids
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:43 am to Zach Lee To Amp Hill
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as is typical of true crime docs, there is a ton of evidence that shows that those 3 guys are guilty that got left out.
I agree this is the case on documentaries such as Making A Murderer. However when searching for evidence outside of the this particular documentary I wouldn't say there is a ton of evidence that incriminates the three. Lack of DNA is very telling.
This post was edited on 5/31/17 at 10:45 am
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:44 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
quote:They've actually been out of prison awhile now. There was DNA evidence that was never admitted in court and they finally got an appeals judge to allow it after almost 20 years.
Just curious if any of you have seen this before, and what's your thoughts on their guilt or innocence?
I don't remember specifically what the DNA evidence was but they also found the step-father's DNA (not the mongoloid-looking one) on the rope the children were bound with.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:45 am to Rhames
quote:If he wasn't he'd probably still be in jail or dead by now.
Damian is an attention whore
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:46 am to arktiger28
The judge's behavior in that case could be a case study in judicial misconduct.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:47 am to Rhames
Jason Miskelly came off as a complete idiot not quite as bad as Dassey from Making a Murderer but just stupid.
I'm curious why he was around Echols and Baldwin when the murders took place he didn't come off as someone in the same crowd.
I'm curious why he was around Echols and Baldwin when the murders took place he didn't come off as someone in the same crowd.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:54 am to King George
If he wasn't he may have also never been arrested.
I feel for him but dude loves the spotlight.
I feel for him but dude loves the spotlight.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:54 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
Watch them all first. They're innocent, and out free.
ETA: There are 3 paradise lost docs on HBO. I think it was the dad, personally
ETA: There are 3 paradise lost docs on HBO. I think it was the dad, personally
This post was edited on 5/31/17 at 10:56 am
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:57 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
quote:I believe he was tested and it was determined that he was borderline retarded.
Jason Miskelly came off as a complete idiot
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:06 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
The investigation was a colossal frick-up and it evolved into a modern-day witch hunt. There were other viable suspects: the Bojangles guy, the ice-cream man and his friend who bolted town. Small town panic and an inept police department both played into the trials and convictions. I remember wanting to punch Gary Gitchell in the face.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:10 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
I honestly thought they got convicted because they were just social outcasts. Gothy, and just generally scary looking, and happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:25 am to Kracka
So can this case ever be reopened with new evidence or not Bc of the plea they made where they had to admit guilt to get out of jail.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:31 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
basically the court accepted their admittance of guilt and said we will just leave things be and not pursue anything else. IMO even though I am no attorney it is because if the city came back and found they were innocent they could sue the ever living shite out of the city.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:40 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
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So can this case ever be reopened with new evidence or not Bc of the plea they made where they had to admit guilt to get out of jail.
Just to be clear, in an Alford plea, the defendant maintains innocence, but admits the evidence against them would likely result in a guilty verdict.
The problem arises out of the fact that the police and prosecutors consider the case closed. Defendants, without the help of law enforcement, must unearth new, conclusive evidence of their own innocence or someone else’s guilt, and then convince a judge to hear the new evidence. That takes a lot of time and money.
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