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re: Oscars ratings down double digits

Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:53 pm to
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:53 pm to
Yeah honestly even if it were films I actually saw I wouldn't watch, I just don't really give a damn about award shows.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:59 pm to
The simple fact is that these movies are hardly being seen by anyone. Make anything less than $250 million and your film might not even crack the Top 15 at the yearly box office. Compare that to the Best Picture winners from the 1990s:

Dances With Wolves: $184 million (#3 film of 1990)
The Silence of the Lambs: $130 million (#4 film of 1991)
Unforgiven: $101 million (#11 film of 1992)
Schindler's List: $96 million (#9 film of 1993)
Forrest Gump: $330 million (#1 film of 1994)
Braveheart: $76 million (#18 film of 1995)
The English Patient: $78 million (#19 film of 1996)
Titanic: $600 million (#1 film of 1997)
Shakespeare in Love: $100 million (#18 film of 1998)
American Beauty: $130 million (#13 film of 1999)

Seven of the 10 films finished inside the Top 15 at the domestic box office in their respective years that decade. All of them finished inside the Top 20. Two of them finished #1.

Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 8:07 pm to
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Do any of you know a lot of people that get excited for the Oscars? Or even care? I've lost interest in ALL awards shows: Grammys, Emmys, Oscars...even the ESPYs (and I used to watch anything sports-related). I know of only 2 people I'm close to that make it a point to watch the show yearly and even they don't really care about it that much.


Saturation might be one of the problems. Seems like you have awards shows every other week.
Posted by OystermanTiger
Jacksonville, Fl.
Member since Mar 2015
578 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 8:10 pm to
Fake News
Posted by Tigerbait337
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2008
20535 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 8:18 pm to
It's because the award winning movies aren't the ones that people watch

If the box office smashes like avengers were winning awards, the average joe viewership would skyrocket
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 8:19 pm to
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Nobody wants to watch a bunch of pretentious assholes blow each other and talk shite about conservatives.



This right here.

ETA: or Russians
This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 8:20 pm
Posted by Tigerbait337
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2008
20535 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 8:23 pm to
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The simple fact is that these movies are hardly being seen by anyone.


That's what I was trying to say in my previous post.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 8:48 pm to
On that subject, I looked up the list of all nominees and winners for Best Picture: wikipedia

I found it interesting that there are years where all of the nominees - not just the winner - were big pictures that are still in frequent rotation and considered classics. Then there are years where the academy just turned it's nose completely to popular opinion and went Hollywood insider.

This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 10:04 pm
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20762 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:21 pm to
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Most of America looks to Hollywood for escapism, not a constant barrage of reminders of current political acrimony.


Yep. This point is sadly lost on so many people in entertainment & sports.

Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36040 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:38 pm to
There seems to be this belief that last night's Oscars was one long attack on Trump. That wasn't the case. They spent way more time fricking over Matt Damon than they did Trump.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36040 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:42 pm to
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Oscars ratings down double digits


You didn't read your link. The viewership was down 4%, not double digits. It was down double digits in one demographic. That's a big difference.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:44 pm to
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narcissist relate each other for hours.
I get this, but isn't it odd that we are do interested in the theatrics of politics (not the policy aspects), arguably the only profession where narcissism is even more prevalent than the entertainment professions?
This post was edited on 2/27/17 at 9:44 pm
Posted by t00f
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Member since Jul 2016
89849 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:51 pm to
Good, as I suspected it would on the poli board.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39190 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:56 pm to
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The simple fact is that these movies are hardly being seen by anyone. Make anything less than $250 million and your film might not even crack the Top 15 at the yearly box office. Compare that to the Best Picture winners from the 1990s:

Most of those movies have fairly wide appeal. The last few years the academy has moved more towards niche Oscar bait films, especially ones with progressive messages. The last two best pictures are about the struggles of being gay and black and the pedophilia scandal in the Catholic church. No matter how good those movies may be, most people don't want to see them just based on content.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78581 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:57 pm to
Four hours of over the top celebrity "virtue- signaling" just doesn't work for me . I watched the Stuxnet documentary with mrs pimp and got in a 90 minute hood stroll. It was almost a perfect night. I did catch the Justin Timberlake opening and damn that guy is talented .
Posted by I am GLORIOUS
On Tanden's Pond
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:59 pm to
Definitely a down year, imo. Didn't see any films nor performances that rally blew me away.
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13531 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:22 pm to
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Nobody wants to watch a bunch of pretentious assholes blow each other and talk shite about conservatives.


There wasn't near as much liberal agenda talk as expected. Way less actually
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13531 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:23 pm to
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but this was a run of bad films nominated this year.


They weren't bad films. They were just some smaller budget/lower marketing ones that unless your a big fan of movies you didn't hear much about
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36040 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:24 pm to
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There wasn't near as much liberal agenda talk as expected. Way less actually


People are assuming the worst. If anything, this was the year where they took the celebs down a bit.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36040 posts
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:27 pm to
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but this was a run of bad films nominated this year.
quote:

hey weren't bad films. They were just some smaller budget/lower marketing ones that unless your a big fan of movies you didn't hear much about


Seriously, I could see La La Land or Moonlight not being someone's cup of tea but they weren't bad films. Manchester, Arrival, Hidden Figures, Hell or High Water, Hacksaw Ridge... those are all great films. They're just not Star Wars or Avengers.
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