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re: Official Better Call Saul Season 3 Episode 3: Sunk Costs

Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:02 pm to
Posted by bah humbug
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:02 pm to
I'm just glad Mike was able to get the shoes in the right spot on the power line. His stake out and shoot game is strong, but his shoe toss game is weak as hell.
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:06 pm to
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i guess they would have heard it. i was just thinking the noise from that truck would drowned it out but you're right.


No, you're right. If they had the windows up and the truck was a diesel, 0% chance they hear it. Even if they heard something faint, it wouldn't be enough to cause suspicion.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:18 pm to
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his shoe toss game is weak as hell.


While watching, I was thinking, "It ain't like roof pizza, is it?"
Posted by gringeaux
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:25 pm to
What was up w/ Chuck standing outside with Jimmy? I thought he needed his special space blanklet to be outside.

Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:27 pm to
Then maybe he was just warming his barrel
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:55 pm to
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Then maybe he was just warming his barrel


warm barrel is the opposite of what you want. I get what they were doing, I just think they tried to get too cute with it. Like I said, still a good episode.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 8:29 am to
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Seems to be a theme of the show. Same with BB. I don't mind slow burns, but this show is excruciatingly slow at times. And I wouldn't even mind that so much if it didn't feel like every single shot was trying so hard to be important or artsy or things like that.

I know I will get hated on for this opinion, but sometimes I feel like VG buys into himself a little too much and tries too hard. He's obviously a fantastic storyteller and director, but man every shot doesn't have to be a closeup of something random, or overly symbolic. When you try to make very single thing unique and symbolic, then nothing is.

That being said, I am glad Gus is finally on the show. Now we can finally get things rolling (albeit at a snail's pace) toward things coming together with Saul Goodman and Mike and all that. I hope they don't drag this show out too much, and that VG has a solid vision for how the whole things plays out (which will make it more concise and complete of a story).




Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 8:45 am to
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What was up w/ Chuck standing outside with Jimmy? I thought he needed his special space blanklet to be outside
it's a psychological disorder. If he's focused on something else ie Jimmy he's not aware he "needs" his space blanket. Just like when he was in the hospital he had no problem with the machine being turned on until it was brought to his attention.
Posted by DivotBreath
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 10:38 am to
I don't see why there are so many complaints about the shoes and rifle shots taken by Mike. I think disassembling an entire vehicle to locate a tracking device and only finding it after he notices a gas cap for sale in the shop lobby was more of a stretch than the shoes and cocaine on the truck.

The show is awesome because of some of the crazy stuff!

My biggest complaint is that they have failed to work Mrs. Kettleman back into the plot!!!
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 10:44 am to
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What was up w/ Chuck standing outside with Jimmy? I thought he needed his special space blanklet to be outside.


It's a psychosomatic disorder
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 10:56 am to
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Jimmy telling Chuck how he wasn't going to have anyone there for him anymore after driving everyone away was pretty hard hitting.


Mike McKean deserves an EMMY for playing Chuck and that scene should have won the EMMY going away
Posted by vandelay industries
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:07 am to
That reminds of a gag in an episode of Police Squad!, when they completely tore apart & disassembled a car looking for drugs, then at the very end find them in the glove compartment
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 11:44 am to
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I don't see why there are so many complaints about the shoes and rifle shots taken by Mike. I think disassembling an entire vehicle to locate a tracking device and only finding it after he notices a gas cap for sale in the shop lobby was more of a stretch than the shoes and cocaine on the truck. The show is awesome because of some of the crazy stuff!

Yeah. I kind of look at it as a slightly different parallel world from ours. Not as far out there as say Game of Thrones or Walking Dead, but a world where some pretty unlikely things sometimes happen.

The one that always struck me was Walt waltzing into a den of hostile drug gangsters and waltzing out. Fulminated mercury or not, that was a pretty rare feat.
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 12:11 pm to
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Sprinkling some drugs on top of the truck by shooting a shoe just as the truck passes by is maybe the most far fetched of any of the hijinks in this universe so far. There are several questionable things that a person couldn't know how it's going to work without extensive experimenting. For example, is enough drugs actually going to stick to the truck to set off the dogs? Wouldn't most of it just blow off in the wind? Would any of it actually stick at all?


This is getting way too overanalyzed. This wasn't a time sensitive operation, like the train heist in BB. Mike just wanted to hurt Hector in a way that wouldn't put innocent people in danger, which is what happened when he ripped off the truck. So, he tries this admittedly far fetched plan. If it didn't work, there would be another truck coming along in about a week or so, and he could just try again becausn he's retired and doesn't have shite else to do. Or, he could try to think of another plan. Luckily, as we see a lot with Mike, chance favors the prepared mind, and it worked.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 1:43 pm to
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If it didn't work, there would be another truck coming along in about a week or so, and he could just try again becausn he's retired and doesn't have shite else to do.


The "hunters" ruse was a one-off. There would have been no second attempt.

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Or, he could try to think of another plan.


He would have had to.
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 1:48 pm to
It was a stupid idea that a person as smart as Mike is supposed to be never would have bothered to try because it's a stupid waste of time. You people are too willing to defend a clearly stupid idea that probably would not have worked by saying that it doesn't matter that it is a stupid idea that probably wouldn't have worked because he could just keep trying the stupid idea that probably would never work.

It's fine. An otherwise awesome show had a kind of silly scheme in it. Whatever.
This post was edited on 4/27/17 at 1:49 pm
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 2:27 pm to
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You people are too willing to defend a clearly stupid idea that probably would not have worked by saying that it doesn't matter that it is a stupid idea that probably wouldn't have worked because he could just keep trying the stupid idea that probably would never work.

Holy run on sentence Batman!




I don't see how Mike's plan was a stupid idea.
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
7729 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 2:41 pm to
One thing I would like cleared up on the show, is how the relationship between Gus and the cartel actually works. It seems that they make money off of Gus. So why do they try to hurt his business and why are the Salamancas there competing in the same territory.

I guess we are just supposed to take it as they are friendly enemies as long as the money is flowing, but I think it would be good for them to clarify it a bit.

Or is it that Gus is on his own now and later in BB they try getting a cut of his operation once he is successful?
This post was edited on 4/27/17 at 2:52 pm
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 3:25 pm to
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I don't see how Mike's plan was a stupid idea.


It's because some people in this thread don't understand what Mike was trying to accomplish.

Mike can't kill Hector so that's off the table.

Mike doesn't want to rip off another truck because a) innocent people get killed b) it annoys Hector but doesn't really hurt him and c) eventually he'll get made and the Salamancas kill his family. So that's out.

This admittedly longshot plan splits the difference and tries to hurt Hector by bringing the heat on his front operation while leaving him alive. It's low risk for both him and Gus while potentially high reward.

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But Walking The Earth, there was like a 90 percent chance that he misses the shoe or the truck isn't in the middle of the road or the DEA dogs are retarded. What then, smartass?


Then, nothing. Mike tells Gus it didn't work and goes back to being semi-retired and Gus probably never offers Mike a permanent job. That was the beauty of the plan. If it didn't work, it didn't work and everybody goes back to their lives.

But yeah, I guess the writers could have slipped in a scene where Mike explains the plan and Gus says "You do realize that this only has a 5 percent chance of working, right?" followed by Mike staring for a couple of seconds and then doing that lip smacking thing of his before softly responding "Yeah"
This post was edited on 4/27/17 at 3:26 pm
Posted by Carson123987
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 3:44 pm to
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quote:
I don't see how Mike's plan was a stupid idea.


It's because some people in this thread don't understand what Mike was trying to accomplish


No, we fully understand the situation. It's just that the plan was stupid. They couldve had mike hiding in a bush near the stopping point where he just slips over to the truck while they're dumping the guns, sprinkles the coke all over the truck, and hides again, and it STILL would've been more believable than what we got. The writers got too cute, that's all we're saying.
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