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re: Official Better Call Saul - Episode 8 "RICO"
Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:56 am to Methuselah
Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:56 am to Methuselah
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The one thing about this episode for me was trying to figure out what in the heck kind of firm is Hamlin? Seems kind of way to big to be a predominately criminal firm, especially something so specialized as white collar crime. They had what - something like 3 or 4 mail room workers? Now, judging from what the nursing home lawyer said about Chuck representing a co-defendant in a anti trust kind of case, I could see perhaps some sort of combo civil defense and criminal defense firm. Which seems strange too but I guess it could happen.
i often ponder the same thing, because when they show chuck working it sounds corporate-ish, plus how much white collar crime is there in ABQ?
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:56 am to UsingUpAllTheLetters
I cringed when check said 20M. In his mind sure that seems reasonable, but the other team had basically admitted they were sunk and said throw out an offer. If they had even said 10M they might have closed the deal before they even left the house. I just hate it for jimmy because he came so very close to something so good and I think we can all foresee that something will go wrong.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 10:37 am to Twenty 49
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So Mike's daughter-in-law is a little implied-blackmailer shakedown artist? That's how I read her line about the money, "Of course, it's just a drop in the bucket." Then we see Mike looking for "work." Little bitch.
I'm not following the whole "shakedown" angle - I thought this was the roll of money she found that her husband/Mike's son took while on the police department (dirty money that got her killed). She has been holding onto it since she found it and is simply asking Mike if it is okay if she spends it (keep in mind there is an ongoing investigation still). Since it is dirty money, Mike tells her if it can do any good, spend it.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:12 am to 911Moto
quote:I took it more of a guilt trip/implication. Kind of like "Mike, I know you did dirty things and know how to make money and my husband is gone because of cops like you and things you did and now I can't provide for my little girl. Time for you to step up and pay."
I'm not following the whole "shakedown" angle
You remember the look on Mike's face? It wasn't a look of empathy. It was a look of anger almost.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 12:45 pm to 911Moto
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I'm not following the whole "shakedown" angle -
I'm with you. I think it's more that Mike really wants to take care of his "family" and particularly his granddaughter. He's said as much and pretty much instituted himself into their lives. Daughter in law seemed to be legitimately hard up to make ends meet to me. What with a dead husband and everything.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 1:05 pm to Spock's Eyebrow
Yeah,Mike.He was the real criminal mind from the start in BB.
Somehow he drags Saul with him.
Somehow he drags Saul with him.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 1:27 pm to Methuselah
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I'm with you. I think it's more that Mike really wants to take care of his "family" and particularly his granddaughter. He's said as much and pretty much instituted himself into their lives. Daughter in law seemed to be legitimately hard up to make ends meet to me. What with a dead husband and everything.
Yea the cash was explained in the previous or two shows.
other than paying for braces and obamacare, I'm not sure what her "ocean" of expenses are going to be, but I assume she isn't a "professional" so her job is a secretary or something. You would think there is some sort of pension or other fund for widows she would be receiving as well.
I don't think she was really trying to "finger" Mike for support but on the other hand, if there is anybody who could and actually get away with it,(as in not wind up dead in the desert) it would be her.
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Yeah,Mike.He was the real criminal mind from the start in BB.
being an ex cop worked for him in what is about to be his new gainful employment that goes beyond the minimum wage he earned sitting in that booth.
This post was edited on 3/25/15 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 3/25/15 at 3:16 pm to Jagd Tiger
quote:she was wearing scrubs
I assume she isn't a "professional" so her job is a secretary or something
Posted on 3/25/15 at 3:31 pm to Holden Caulfield
quote:Pretty sure Jimmy just wants the headline. He wants to prove he can be a good lawyer so bad it hurts. Hamlin is about to steal Jimmy's biggest chance to prove it.
That's a good explanation and I would agree with your position except for Jimmy's absolute hatred of Hamlin and his law firm. That alone makes his carelessness questionable. IMHO there is no way he would allow himself to become so fixated on a payout that he would deliver that payout to his demises.
Hijack....Would that sentence above be, He wants to prove he can? Or, He wants to prove that he can...?
ETA: I'm on team shakedown.
This post was edited on 3/25/15 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 3/25/15 at 3:53 pm to timbo
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Without question. They've done a good of developing the characters and establishing Jimmy's/Saul's background while keeping a nice pace.
I really like BCS and it's been FAR better than I expected, but it isn't on the level of Breaking Bad's first season. Spoiler alert for those of you haven't seen Breaking Bad yet:
There hasn't been a moment in the show that has compared to Walt blowing up Tuco's lab. Think about the circumstances surrounding the main character in that scene: he's been a beta male his entire life, dying of cancer, his partner was badly beaten and he has to go into the most dangerous section of town (where he clearly doesn't fit in) and demand $50K from a hyper violent, methed out, drug dealer. Oh, and somehow he needs to keep his composure while setting off an explosion and make it past a bunch of armed goons with $50K.
This isn't a knock on BCS. It's that BB set the bar exceptionally high.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 4:00 pm to link
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she was wearing scrubs
Yeah, I took her to be a nurse or at least a tech of some sort in the medical field. Is it really that hard to make ends meet being in that industry with a kid? My nurse friends all do well and have kids.
Posted on 3/26/15 at 1:36 pm to Sho Nuff
First Season of BCS > First Season of BB
Posted on 3/26/15 at 1:41 pm to Dignan
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This isn't a knock on BCS. It's that BB set the bar exceptionally high.
That one scene didn't make up for the hours of lame in the first season of Breaking Bad. If that show had sucked after Season 1, nobody would have ever mentioned it as a great first season. For instance Prison Break is still remembered for a great first season even though it flew of the rails. Would not be the case with BB.
This post was edited on 3/26/15 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 3/26/15 at 3:17 pm to SwaggerCopter
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That one scene did make up for the hours of lame in the first season of Breaking Bad.
Season one had many good moments.
The choking of the dude in the Basement. The fire getting started in the dessert, bullet holes in the door of the Bounder scene. The opening scene where he records his message to Skyler. Pretty sure all that happened in season number one. This was some of the best stuff, IMHO because it was believable.
Posted on 3/26/15 at 3:22 pm to McGregor
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First Season of BCS > First Season of BB
Let's wait and see how they end this season first...
Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:16 pm to SEClint
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We know where Saul ends up, no mention of any of the people he associates with now were mentioned on breaking bad, aside from mike.
Wonder how those bridges are burned and this episode chuck grew on me more, every time he walks outside I think he's going to be hit by a car. Hope he lives and has a good send off.
I truly believe both Chuck and Jimmy's HH&M blonde bimbo are gonna frick Jimmy over "for the firm".
The preview for next week saw Chuck and Jimmy on what looked like a park bench, so Chuck seems to be deep into "recovery". And Jimmy's bimbo is more interested in climbing the partner ladder than in Jimmy IMO.
Ergo... Saul.
QED.
Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:23 pm to Overbrook
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He hates Howard but it's likely his brother who dikked him at the law firm, with Howard being the messenger.
This makes a LOT of sense. Remember when Jimmy brought in his Bar letter? Chuck's first response was "Where did you get this?"
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And his brother will likely do it to him again.
Yep.
Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:26 pm to htownjeep
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I thought it was money Mike had given her and she was afraid to spend it.
She asked him if it was safe to spend it because she and Kayle needed it.
I may be mistaken.
You are correct.
Nope, the money Mike's DIL has is the "dirty" money Mike's son took before he died and hid in his luggage.
The DIL mentioned finding the money in the luggage which is why she called the Philadelphia cops a couple of episodes ago.
Posted on 3/26/15 at 8:31 pm to beatbammer
I wanna see shite hit the fan, but I like Kim. I don't want her to frick him over 
Posted on 3/28/15 at 2:36 pm to LouisianaLady
Kim is going sell out Jimmy as part of HHM stealing the Sandpiper case because they messed up and spent HHM money on the copies.
They planted the seeds of that by talking so much about Kim wanting to make partner. She is going to get offered a partnership for selling out Jimmy.
Remember that Hamlin shite all over Kim for losing the Hecklemens or whatever their name was and that case was small potatoes compared to the Sandpiper case.
Chuck may even sell out Jimmy to get back full time.
The first season is about turning Jimmy into Saul. There are only two people in this show as far as I can tell that Jimmy wants the respect of: Kim and Chuck.
Jimmy isn't going to turn into Saul just for money. Gilligan has set him up to be a guy that is wanting to take the straight and narrow and leave slipping Jimmy behind after the skater thing went bad and he almost got killed. For him to become Saul, his ties to Kim and Chuck have to be severed. This Sandpiper case is what is going to sever them.
You can't get to Saul without Jimmy not caring what Kim and Chuck think.
They planted the seeds of that by talking so much about Kim wanting to make partner. She is going to get offered a partnership for selling out Jimmy.
Remember that Hamlin shite all over Kim for losing the Hecklemens or whatever their name was and that case was small potatoes compared to the Sandpiper case.
Chuck may even sell out Jimmy to get back full time.
The first season is about turning Jimmy into Saul. There are only two people in this show as far as I can tell that Jimmy wants the respect of: Kim and Chuck.
Jimmy isn't going to turn into Saul just for money. Gilligan has set him up to be a guy that is wanting to take the straight and narrow and leave slipping Jimmy behind after the skater thing went bad and he almost got killed. For him to become Saul, his ties to Kim and Chuck have to be severed. This Sandpiper case is what is going to sever them.
You can't get to Saul without Jimmy not caring what Kim and Chuck think.
This post was edited on 3/28/15 at 2:41 pm
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