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re: Next James Bond should be black

Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:07 pm to
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:07 pm to
frick that noise. Maybe after that how about Ronda Rousey?
Posted by MartinRiggs1
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:09 pm to
Because the film industry is about making money and it was in regards to what could be done to create better stories while still maintaining profit. I even noted it would never happen because people prefer watching white people and that's ok

Ronda Rousey is an awful actress haha
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 11:10 pm
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:21 pm to
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Tarantino has said in interviews he wants permission to do his version of Casino Royale. Loyal to the book, so they would be playing baccarat. And he wanted it to be Pierce Brosnan.
Which shows he's full of shite since the Bond of the books is nothing like Brosnan

A character in CR actually describes Bond as looking like this man



Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:23 pm to
This has been a marvelous troll, but just between us -- who are you an alter for?
Posted by MartinRiggs1
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:32 pm to
You know the kind of reactions expected on a board with these types when you start typing something you know they disagree with but having said that, it was a good session of mental gymnastics.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:44 pm to
James Bond is Scottish but I get your point and agree with it.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:56 pm to
Other than just because, why should Bond be black? 87.2% of the British population is white with only 3% of the population described as black. Compare that to 13.2% in the United States.

It may fit with the times in the United States, but there are very few African minorities in the UK.

Posted by Matisyeezy
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 12:14 am to
I have no problem with a black Bond if they acknowledge that the name is an alias just like the agent call sign. It acknowledges previous white 007s and this one just happens to be black.

Jesus Christ this thread is a shitshow.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 12:33 am to
quote:

You know the kind of reactions expected on a board with these types when you start typing something you know they disagree with but having said that, it was a good session of mental gymnastics.

There have been multiple threads on this exact topic on this board. Your idea or troll or whatever is nothing new. So, are you proposing Idris Elba, or Idris Elba? I think Idris Elba would blend in splendidly in China, Russia, or Iran.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 1:12 am to
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I have no problem with a black Bond if they acknowledge that the name is an alias just like the agent call sign. It acknowledges previous white 007s and this one just happens to be black.


There would have to be so many coincidences for Bond to simply be an alias:

1. Every Bond has been a card playing, vodka loving, womanzing white male.

2. Every Bond has had the backstory of being an orphan with his parents dying in an accident at a young age.

3. Each Bond takes their martinis the same way, deliver witty one liners, and introduce themselves in the exact same way.

4. Every Bond since Lazenby (save Brosnan and Craig) has acknowledged or hinted at the death of his spouse. Roger Moore's Bond even visited Tracy Bond's grave, thus acknowledging that the George Lazenby Bond and Roger Moore Bond were the same person. That means Connery's Bond also must be the same Bond because On Her Majesty's Secret Service is sandwiched between two Connery films (You Only Live Twice and Diamonds Are Forever). Why would two different men be using the Bond alias within MI6 at the same time?

Dalton's Bond, too, shares a tragic past in regards to losing a wife. In License to Kill it is mentioned by Felix Leiter to his new bride that Bond had been married once and that she had died.

Brosnan's Bond is disliked by the new M because she feels he has outlived his usefulness to the agency. "A relic of the Cold War," she calls him in Goldeneye. This heavily implies that Brosnan's Bond was very active as a spy throughout the contest with the Soviets. Which means, if the alias theory is correct, he would have been running around at the same time as the Moore and Dalton Bonds. Again...why have multiple men within MI6 using the same alias?

And the evidence points to Craig's Bond being the same incarnation as the Bond delivered to us by Sean Connery due to the fact that a) they're both from Scotland b) they both lost their parents in a climbing accident and c) they both drive the same 1964 Aston-Martin (equipped with the same features and everything).

And since I have proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the Connery-Lazenby-Moore-Dalton-Brosnan Bond are all the same man, it stands to reason that Craig should be lumped in with them as well.


This post was edited on 4/13/16 at 1:37 am
Posted by Macintosh504
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:10 am to
You're obviously biased considering you're black
Posted by Tigris
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:24 am to
quote:

I feel as if the next James Bond should be black


I prefer thinking to feeling. My thought is that to base the next Bond movie around an artificial premise of his race is a pretty dumb way to go about it. But Bond movies are rather unserious to start with. And it would fit in with the newfangled way of thinking.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 7:24 am to
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you're so mad

This and the tower series



I'm also mad that they are pissing on Swayze's legacy by remaking Road House with Ehonda fricking Rousey!
Posted by Matisyeezy
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 7:36 am to
quote:

And since I have proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the Connery-Lazenby-Moore-Dalton-Brosnan Bond are all the same man, it stands to reason that Craig should be lumped in with them as well.



Great, so they are all the same person. My statement still stands with one super minor change --

quote:

I have no problem with a black Bond if they acknowledge that the name is an alias just like the agent call sign. It acknowledges the previous white 007 (singular, not plural) and this one just happens to be black.


The "Black Bond" is a replacement. And we're assuming this replacement is by virtue of his qualifications and not simply because he's black. People age and retire, or perhaps even meet untimely ends. That there would be a replacement is entirely logical. There are ways that this transition could be done tastefully and with respect to the source. I hate to say it because I'm loathe to throw this term around, but categorical dismissal of the idea based purely upon skin color is inherently discriminatory. You could just wait and judge a product based upon its actual merits (assuming it would actually be made, which is unlikely), or at least be willing to admit that it has the potential to be good.
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 7:55 am to
The next Bond should be Deadpool
Posted by SpqrTiger
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:40 am to
Why not make him Indian instead?

The British Empire has more of a history with India than practically any other non-Western country.

Or, is Indian the wrong shade of brown for you?

Because that's what this is about, right? Skin color.
Posted by CadesCove
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 9:07 am to
You've been hanging out with Roger Murtaugh and his family too long.
Posted by Master of Sinanju
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 9:45 am to
I once read a fan-fic in which a Bond villian had a sex change to get revenge on 007.
Posted by ManBearTiger
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 9:45 am to
The next Blade should be Asian.
Posted by ManBearTiger
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 9:52 am to
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Which shows he's full of shite since the Bond of the books is nothing like Brosnan

A character in CR actually describes Bond as looking like this man



Uhhhh... that guy and Pierce Brosnan are basically pretty damn similiar in appearance.
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