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Nerd Alert: Rothfuss/Lionsgate sign huge deal to adpat Kingkiller Chronicles

Posted on 10/8/15 at 11:21 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 11:21 am
Into a Movie, TV Show AND Video Game.

No specifics on the amount paid but apparently there was a pretty intense bidding war between multiple companies, but Rothfuss chose Lionsgate because he thought they could actually do it, AND they have apparently ceded a tremendous amount of control to him.

Sounds like it will definitely be adapted.

There are some very interesting details on the process on Rothfuss' blog.

Lionsgate also produced and developed The Hunger Games, for instance.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 11:25 am to
For those that don't know, The Kingkiller Chronicles is a Fantasy series written by Patrick Rothfuss.

After the Game of Thrones/Song of Ice and Fire series, it is probably the most popular fantasy series out right now. It has sold over 10 million copies, and only two books so far have been released, The Name of the Wind and The Wise Man's Fear.

It is a planned trilogy, with only one book remaining, Doors of Stone. That book has been in development for about 5 years now with no release date in site, although back in December of 2014 Rothfuss said without a doubt it would not be out in 2015.
Posted by Josh Fenderman
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 11:35 am to
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It is a planned trilogy, with only one book remaining, Doors of Stone. That book has been in development for about 5 years now with no release date in site, although back in December of 2014 Rothfuss said without a doubt it would not be out in 2015.

So is this going to end up like Martin and GoT? Where Rothfuss spends all his time working on the movies and never gets around to finishing the books first?

I bought the first book a long time ago but have held off on reading it when learning about how long he takes to put books out. Do I even want to read it now?
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 11:42 am to
I've loved the first two books. Wish he was putting them out as fast as Salvatore does.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 11:44 am to
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So is this going to end up like Martin and GoT? Where Rothfuss spends all his time working on the movies and never gets around to finishing the books first?


No.

Its only a trilogy (he is 100% adamant about that) and he's been working on the last book since 2011. He has come out with a novella, the Slow Regard of Silent Things, in the meantime. It sounded like the last time he mentioned the book they were heavily into the editing process.

By the time we even get to a 3rd book adapted for TV/Movie, we are talking at least 4-5 years from now. Its not going to take him a decade to finish a book. He should be done within the next year.

Now, he does plan to continue writing "In that world", but Kvothe, the main character of this Trilogy, his story will be done.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 11:47 am to
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I've loved the first two books. Wish he was putting them out as fast as Salvatore does.


Or Sanderson, who freaking cranks out quality books like crazy and has like 6 different series going on right now. That dude is nuts. I seriously think there is no way he can write books like that, that his wife or something has to be writing some of them.

But Rothfuss' stuff is quality, quality writing, beyond almost anyone in fantasy. If he needs the time, he needs the time. He's also got two young kids and is very active in various charities.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 11:56 am to
I saw him one night upstairs in the Tavern on Lamar in Austin. I even showed his picture to my wife and she was like "yep, that's definitely the same guy". He must have been in town to see a friend or do a book signing down the street at Book People.

REALLY like his stuff except for the whole Felurian interlude in The Wise Man's Fear. Lordy, that was bad. So tedious and boring. Almost just skipped ahead. I wonder if some day he'll realize just how terrible and unnecessary 99% of that was and cut it from later editions.
This post was edited on 10/8/15 at 12:02 pm
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 12:15 pm to
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Or Sanderson, who freaking cranks out quality books like crazy and has like 6 different series going on right now. That dude is nuts. I seriously think there is no way he can write books like that, that his wife or something has to be writing some of them.


Agreed. There's a reason the Jordan folks picked him to finish off WoT.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 1:09 pm to
Of all the epic fantasy series out right now, this is the one I care least about seeing on film. Rothfuss is a great writer, but dude needs to have someone tell him when he's gone off the rails.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 1:40 pm to
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dude needs to have someone tell him when he's gone off the rails


Oh man. This. I LOVE the world he created, his characters, his actual writing itself - stylistically, the undercurrent of mystery, just the whole mix... it's intoxicating and I lose myself in it, BUT dang, he could use someone who had the guts to tell him that certain sections just suck and are ridiculous, cringe-worthy, and embarrassing to the point of taking away from all the rest.

I have a feeling that everyone around him became sycophantic - at first because it IS, on the whole, so good, and especially, later, because the first book was so successful. It may also be his way to just not take criticism. But there's no way that no one around him thought - at least to themselves - that devoting 100 pages to what are clearly (embarrassingly) his own bedroom fantasies without advancing the plot was a very bad idea. It's clear though that either they didn't speak up or weren't listened to, because it's there, in all its unnecessary, time-wasting, diversionary glory.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 1:50 pm to
I really didn't hate the Ferulian (or whatever) scenes as much as others.

To me, it was just Kvothe being an unreliable narrator, bragging about his sexual prowess to keep building his legend.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 2:57 pm to
If they leave off that boring arse part in the middle of the first book it will be cool.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 3:00 pm to
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Oh man. This. I LOVE the world he created, his characters, his actual writing itself - stylistically, the undercurrent of mystery, just the whole mix... it's intoxicating and I lose myself in it, BUT dang, he could use someone who had the guts to tell him that certain sections just suck and are ridiculous, cringe-worthy, and embarrassing to the point of taking away from all the rest.


Yep, this. I just said it shorter
Posted by Cooter Davenport
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 3:05 pm to
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To me, it was just Kvothe being an unreliable narrator, bragging about his sexual prowess to keep building his legend.


I feel that Kvothe being an unreliable narrator provides a lot of the undercurrent of interest I find in the book because I think we're going to find out that he's been really unreliable, which, to the extent that he's taken it here, is a refreshing and "new" concept to me in terms of books. I mean, you have the unreliable narrator, to an extent, in a lot of fiction, but in Kingkiller you can barely trust him. I like that wrinkle.

So far as his braggadociosness though, I agree. It gets old, particularly the extent to which he takes it. We get it - Kvothe is an extreme braggart and a liar - there's no need to just beat it to death like he does.
Posted by A_Leather_Glove
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 8:46 pm to
First book was one of the most engrossing reads I've encountered. Still enjoyed Wise Man's Fear, but agree with what others have said about the whole Felurian thing. Felt like the 2nd book also raised more questions then answers, and it's no surprise to me after reading it that book 3 has been in development so long - I feel like it's gonna be a real challenge to wrap up the trilogy neatly with all the loose ends open...
Posted by Cooter Davenport
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Posted on 10/9/15 at 8:24 am to
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I feel like it's gonna be a real challenge to wrap up the trilogy neatly with all the loose ends open...


Yup, the LOST delimma. It was fun, as the writer, at the time, to introduce all that complexity and open all of those questions, but come Book 3, it's time, as the writer, to pay the piper for having done so. He's got to either come up with some pretty brilliant stuff (particularly because he only has that one last book to do it in, so he has to be economical with words) or punt in LOST fashion and use some kind of deus ex machina to side-step his own mess. I am eager to see how he does it.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 10/9/15 at 8:39 am to
That genre is probably what I have the absolute LEAST interest in on earth. Don't give one rats butt about the entire thing. But a few years ago some friends had a secret santa thing and my buddy got me those 2 books. I figured what the hell, and I absolutely couldn't put them down. I was really pleased with both.

However, it's been so long since I read the 2nd one that I've forgotten damn near everything in them, and have no interest now in reading the 3rd. I'd have to reread both the first two, which I don't really want to do. Why do authors drag their feet so much on shite like this?
Posted by Cooter Davenport
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Posted on 10/9/15 at 12:58 pm to
I know George RR Martin has made the claim that he's written himself into knots wherein his various and sundry concurrent timelines become all tied up and it's very hard for him to come up with a way for all of the parallel stories to move toward the outcomes he's predetermined for them in a logical way given who in the story is where doing what at the given time in the chronology he picks up his story to move it forward. He claims that that takes a long time to puzzle through. Although Rothfuss' narrative is built differently, he probably painted himself into some philosophically similar conundra.
This post was edited on 10/9/15 at 12:59 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 10/9/15 at 2:34 pm to
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George RR Martin has made the claim that he's written himself into knots wherein his various and sundry concurrent timelines become all tied up and it's very hard for him to come up with a way for all of the parallel stories to move toward the outcomes he's predetermined for them in a logical way given who in the story is where doing what at the given time in the chronology he picks up his story to move it forward


I'm not a writer, but if I was it seems like every move I had characters make would always have the end result that I had predetermined in the back of my mind. Seems kinda common sense.
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 11/2/15 at 10:52 pm to
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Now, he does plan to continue writing "In that world", but Kvothe, the main character of this Trilogy, his story will be done.



Did PR say this specifically? I was expecting the third book to wrap up the "story within the story" and later books to deal with Kvothe reentering the world.
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