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re: Making a Murderer to get new episodes
Posted on 7/19/16 at 6:15 pm to VermilionTiger
Posted on 7/19/16 at 6:15 pm to VermilionTiger
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Don't know how I feel about this
farther and farther I got form watching the show, the more I felt like he did it
Took the words right out of my mouth
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 6:16 pm to Ace Midnight
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Explain all of her remains on the salvage yard. And her vehicle.
Explain to me why the forensic scientist involved said there was no way the fire could have got hot enough to char the remains in the way it did?
Posted on 7/19/16 at 6:35 pm to Goldrush25
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Thoughts?
Yah. Ok then.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 6:39 pm to PortCityTiger24
Show was good but overrated by people. They could have done it in about 6 episodes
Posted on 7/19/16 at 6:51 pm to Big Scrub TX
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What was done to her?
Brendan said they slit her throat open and dragged her body to the pit and burned it. Yet there's no blood anywhere on the compound.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 7:02 pm to Ace Midnight
Ace's proclamations reflect what most people think, he MUST have done it. Maybe, I don't know. When you dive into the evidence it gets real hazy. It is not clear cut, nor is the prosecutions story of how it happened, because if it was we wouldn't be talking about it.
Then on top of that the cops don't like him and his family, within reason, and on top of that have a multi million dollar law suit, which won't just drain the department, but actual money coming out of their pockets. That's pretty powerful.
In just three pages there are some good questions that don't have good answers.
Then on top of that the cops don't like him and his family, within reason, and on top of that have a multi million dollar law suit, which won't just drain the department, but actual money coming out of their pockets. That's pretty powerful.
In just three pages there are some good questions that don't have good answers.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 8:04 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:well, that isn't terrifying
It's not the cop's "fault" on Brendan, though. You take the tools you have - you make the case you can. It's up to the lawyers and judges to regulate the "fairness" of it.
our justice "system" in a nutshell
Posted on 7/19/16 at 8:08 pm to dallastiger55
quote:The last 3 were just edited terribly. They had so much footage that it almost felt like they front loaded it with all the big shite then stretched it out with random pieces here and there.
They could have done it in about 6 episodes
Posted on 7/20/16 at 8:09 am to ell_13
for anyone going to green bay the avery's salvage yard is about 7 miles off the interstate between milwaukee and green bay. we may stop off for a photo op on the way.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:04 am to Goldrush25
Based on the documenory I felt like there was reasonable doubt and he should have not been convicted.
However the entire time I watched it I also questioned whether or not the makers of the film were 100% honest or did they design it to create doubt of the viewers.
However the entire time I watched it I also questioned whether or not the makers of the film were 100% honest or did they design it to create doubt of the viewers.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:28 am to JOJO Hammer
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However the entire time I watched it I also questioned whether or not the makers of the film were 100% honest
Essentially, what you saw was a defense-funded "trial package" tweaked for an entertainment audience. The omitted a significant portion of the evidence pointing to Avery's guilt. They spun the story heavily to the defense side.
This post was edited on 7/20/16 at 10:29 am
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:33 am to TheCaterpillar
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The REAL travesty of the whole ordeal is Brendan
I feel like Steve(?) did it, but yeah, this part was fricked up. IIRC, he described what happened in the house, only later to say he got that from a book. Anyone been able to confirm that? Think the book was Kiss the Girls
Posted on 7/20/16 at 10:34 am to the_watcher
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Steve Avery is guilty and Brendan helped. It was planned in advance.
Soooooooooooooooooooooo, where's all the blood in the garage? They cleaned every drop and then put all the shite back in the garage in the same messy way it was before?
I can't say Avery didn't do it....but he didn't do it the way they say.
I think Brendan didn't do anything.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 11:10 am to DeathValley85
Holy shite, people still believe Avery is innocent?
Posted on 7/20/16 at 11:25 am to DeathValley85
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where's all the blood in the garage? They cleaned every drop and then put all the shite back in the garage in the same messy way it was before?
Yeah that's the entire problem. Regardless of whether I personally think Avery did it or not (I think he most likely did it) they can't eschew due process just to nail the guy. If you go into great detail as to how the crime occurred, then you don't get to say the details don't matter when they don't support your scenario.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 11:31 am to Byron Bojangles III
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Explain no blood anywhere on the compound. None at all.
He did it on the back 40, so to speak. The Avery yard is connected through a series of dirt roads and trails with no fences or gates to a couple of decent sized open pit mines for, I assume, gravel. He probably abducted her in the trailer or right outside of it, forced her into the car (or he told he they needed to take a picture of a car and had her drive him) then did it back there and had a fire back there on the spot. It clearly didn't occur int he trailer or the garage, but that doesn't mean he didn't do it. They did find burnt remains back there. That's probably where it all went down and the police just moved the evidence to make the case stronger.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 12:46 pm to TheGodfather
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for anyone going to green bay the avery's salvage yard is about 7 miles off the interstate between milwaukee and green bay. we may stop off for a photo op on the way.
I'm really hoping the LSU fans at College Gameday make good signs that tie in Making a Murderer somehow. The most natural would be to insinuate the referees will be corrupt. I'd also like to see some reference to the outfit of jorts and stained tee shirt which Avery wore to his meeting with the governor.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 12:49 pm to Ace Midnight
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The omitted a significant portion of the evidence pointing to Avery's guilt. They spun the story heavily to the defense side.
Most of what they "omitted" was not nearly as bad as spun in retrospect. For instance, the preposterous talking point that he "tricked her" by using his sister's name. That's the car he was selling. Or that he "asked for her specifically". Yes, she was the rep for that region, and they had dealt with each other in past sales. etc. etc.
Regardless, all I have to know to understand that Wisconsin "justice" is outrageous is that, at the appeal for the kid, his defense attorney ADMITTED TO WORKING IN SERVICE OF THE PROSECUTION...and yet the kid still sits in prison.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 1:07 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Regardless, all I have to know to understand that Wisconsin "justice" is outrageous is that, at the appeal for the kid, his defense attorney ADMITTED TO WORKING IN SERVICE OF THE PROSECUTION...and yet the kid still sits in prison.
There was a significant failure of due process in Brendan's case - I'm not going to deny that, and I think that Avery is guilty as hell and Brendan was likely involved in some way, perhaps only after the fact.
Posted on 7/20/16 at 1:11 pm to Ace Midnight
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There was a significant failure of due process in Brendan's case
Which evidently extended well beyond the heat of the moment.
What about due process and procedure for Avery? Allowing other persons of interest to freely walk the Avery property during the investigation? How was that not - alone - enough to throw out the conviction?
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