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re: Mad Men Episode 96. "Time and Life"

Posted on 4/26/15 at 11:49 pm to
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 4/26/15 at 11:49 pm to
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fricking Lou and his Scouts Honor skit.


"They gave me a $15,000 advance!"

He says to the millionaire.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
H TINE HOL IT DINE
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/26/15 at 11:50 pm to
Lou seriously is one of the best castings on the show.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/27/15 at 2:29 am to
I'd forgotten it, but this morning I was watching the reruns on AMC and they showed the one where Don and Roger are waiting in the airport to fly to Detroit. Lou is the guy who walks over and taunts them about losing Vicks. "Anyone got a caugh drop?"

"Enjoy your miserable life" was the perfect last line for him, as Don is unknowingly about to get Coca Cola.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 4/27/15 at 6:20 am to
Diana's gonna kill Draper in the finale. I can feel it coming.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27733 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 7:06 am to
Am I the only one that would nail the shite out of Merideth?

He should run away with her


Who you got- Allison Brie or Merideth?
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/27/15 at 7:55 am to
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Who you got- Allison Brie or Merideth?


Brie in a landslide. Meredith over Trudy though.

Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/27/15 at 8:00 am to
Pretty good episode. Lots of directions the show could go.

I'm glad we finally got rid of the frayed ends. Seems like the next few episodes could really focus in on Don, SCP people, and hopefully Sally. I think Don's relationship with Sally is one of the more in-depth aspects of the show, but they sent her away on a bus. Might not see her again.

Since happy endings aren't exactly par for the course with these kinds of shows, I imagine we'll see Don realize that reaching the pinnacle of the advertising business has done nothing for him. He's gotten another spark after seeing so much of his life disappear. It's the same cycle he's had throughout this entire show.

But without Coca Cola, Don has nothing. His family is gone. Megan is gone. Empty apartment. No friends. No lovers (Don's had sex two times in what is seemingly a few weeks of the show's timeline. This has to be one of his longest droughts ever).

Something's going to ruin Coca Cola for him.

Also, I'm a little skeptical of what happened with McCann. So they buy SCP and give them some of the biggest accounts available? Hasn't McCann been kind of the bad guy?
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:34 am to
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Also, I'm a little skeptical of what happened with McCann. So they buy SCP and give them some of the biggest accounts available? Hasn't McCann been kind of the bad guy?


He rattled off those clients, but that doesn't mean that they each got ownership of said clients. Don may "lead" creative on Coca-Cola for a little while (until he disappears for a week or cancels meetings so that he can nap in his office).
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:34 am to
Ken Cosgrove for the win.
Posted by TheHumanTornado
Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:42 am to
What was everyone's interpretation of the final scene? Everyone acting as if they don't exist as they make the announcement? Just curious, maybe I'm overthinking this.......
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
11809 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:43 am to
That was the Mad Men I've been waiting for. I almost would have liked that to have been the premiere, but now I see what the other episodes were for. Don is being stripped of his identity piece by piece.
Posted by Othello
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Member since Aug 2013
22926 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:46 am to
I don't think Weiner will kill Don/Dick because he sees him as his alter-ego. But I hope Don dies or was dead the whole time.

I got scared when Pete and Joan left together I just had a bad feeling they would get killed in the car on the way home. I'm glad they didn't. To kill any of the side characters at this point would be lame.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33432 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:48 am to
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What was everyone's interpretation of the final scene? Everyone acting as if they don't exist as they make the announcement? Just curious, maybe I'm overthinking this.......


Good question. It seemed way too on-the-nose to have been actually what they were going for, right?
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/27/15 at 10:48 am to
I think a solid way to end the show would be to jump forward to present day and have Don just be another old guy.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36060 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 11:03 am to
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What was everyone's interpretation of the final scene? Everyone acting as if they don't exist as they make the announcement? Just curious, maybe I'm overthinking this.......


There's a lack of trust in the company. It's at the point where the staff knows that the owners are all full of shite (with Bert Cooper no longer there). Don and Roger trying to spin their absorption as a great thing came across to the staff as total BS.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18416 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 1:39 pm to
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There's a lack of trust in the company. It's at the point where the staff knows that the owners are all full of shite (with Bert Cooper no longer there). Don and Roger trying to spin their absorption as a great thing came across to the staff as total BS.



Yep.

Also a representation of what it's like being merged into a large company. SCP was a quaint little office with lots of money. They were the mom and pop shop of Madison Avenue.

Going to McCann is nothing but a money and ego move for the partners. It has nothing to do with Peggy, Stan, Meredith, or any other worker in the office.

I think Weiner is showing us that there's nothing redeemable about our main characters. They're all alone in their greed. All of the fun they've had banging women, drinking, landing accounts, and making business decisions has all been done in the name of quenching a selfish thirst.

It's capitalism at its worst.
This post was edited on 4/27/15 at 1:40 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33432 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 1:42 pm to
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Going to McCann is nothing but a money and ego move for the partners. It has nothing to do with Peggy, Stan, Meredith, or any other worker in the office.

I think Weiner is showing us that there's nothing redeemable about our main characters. They're all alone in their greed. All of the fun they've had banging women, drinking, landing accounts, and making business decisions has all been done in the name of quenching a selfish thirst.

It's capitalism at its worst.


In this instance, what choice did they have? They actually did try to keep it.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 1:57 pm to
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In this instance, what choice did they have?


None, but they gave up their choice last season when they cashed out. All because Roger needed to win his dick-measuring contest with Jim Cutler.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36060 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 2:01 pm to
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None, but they gave up their choice last season when they cashed out. All because Roger needed to win his dick-measuring contest with Jim Cutler.


It was worth it to see Harry Crane get dicked out of a million dollar payday.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18416 posts
Posted on 4/27/15 at 2:09 pm to
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In this instance, what choice did they have? They actually did try to keep it.



They tried to save SCP until they were shown the diamonds. They were going to remain an autonomous office with smaller clients out in California. Much like was done in earlier seasons, they would have pulled in some clients of their own for a few years and then once the McCann contract was complete, they would probably pull out and go back to being just SCP and thrive on the West Coast.

But instead, Don could have Coca Cola and Roger could have Buick and suddenly they're in full trust of McCann.
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