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re: Just watched Flash Forward.

Posted on 10/8/09 at 10:58 pm to
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 10/8/09 at 10:58 pm to
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I got one, the murder the Nazi saw in his flash forward was Harolds.


No. He speaks about the murder and what he saw in his flash forward was his interaction with the customs officer at the airport.

He then woke up from his flash forward and saw a murder of crows dead on the prison grounds.

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a group of crows is called a murder. That's the murder he was referring to


This.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81265 posts
Posted on 10/8/09 at 11:28 pm to
yeah i know it was in 91, the sky was doing some fricked up looking shite. it kind of looked like it was coming out of that pole or whatever at first but i dont think so.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20442 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 7:38 am to
The kid had a scar on his face. Man, I hope we see Omar on this show. That is guy an amazing actor. I am too lazy to check IMDB.
Posted by ChicagoTiger
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2007
5492 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 7:58 am to
Pretty sure the stone-looking tower is emmitting some pulse that kicks out the energy. i bet it's some goverment conspiracy that finally got their "secret formula" right.

This show will have me again next Thursday
Posted by jojothetireguy
Live out in Coconut Grove
Member since Jan 2009
10490 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 9:23 am to
i like this show and have watched since day one. The only thing that has kinda irked me is the "this is unbelievable" thing. Meaning when Det Benford keeps seeing or getting info that makes his vision seem more and more true, the other people just make it seem like he's slightly lost it. Like last night, when he wanted to go visit the German guy and get the info, everyone was against it. How can a completely unnatural thing happening(blackout) still make people question his vision or question his reasoning for wanting to do something. Anyone understand what i'm trying to say.
Posted by ChicagoTiger
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 10/9/09 at 9:28 am to
I'm thinking it is just the writers trying to have a little bit of conflict in the story...but it is VERY little. Maybe they should actually not let him follow a lead once and then the lead actually backfires.

Question: So was the Guy's Daughter who's body he exhumed: is she really dead? or did he just say that? not sure on that one
Posted by TxTiger25
Houston
Member since Jan 2006
10289 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 9:32 am to
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So was the Guy's Daughter who's body he exhumed: is she really dead? or did he just say that? not sure on that one


That's what I can't figure out, but I'm sure they have some plan for that. Also, Harold's fiancee says she saw him at their beach wedding. How is that possible if he's supposed to die? Did she maybe just see the wedding scene and lie about him being there?

That's the kinda thing that has me hooked because I can't just stop watching and not find out.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
65876 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 9:33 am to
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Also, Harold's fiancee says she saw him at their beach wedding. How is that possible if he's supposed to die? Did she maybe just see the wedding scene and lie about him being there?


I think she's lying about it.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/9/09 at 9:46 am to
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I think she's lying about it.


She's not lying. I think she either goes insane due to his death, goes to the beach like they were supposed to and hallucinates him being there right before she kills herself, OR...

she's there waiting, doesn't know he's dead (for whatever reason), and a hotel employee is coming to give her the bad news (but from the distance, she can't see his face clearly, or maybe she has bad eyesight).

Another way this could go is if you can change the future. He may be able to use the knowledge he has now to avoid his fate and that's what his fiancee sees.

Maybe some people saw the future that would be if no one ever had the glimpse into the future, and some have had a glimpse of the future where people knew what was coming so they changed their own futures.

Thoughts?
Posted by LT Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
3015 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 9:47 am to
It seems to me that she is assuming that the person she sees is her fiancee! If you look at the flashback again, it never shows his face. Just her, her dress, and her barefeet!

Posted by bomber77
Member since Aug 2008
14783 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 9:54 am to
I love this show and look forward to it each week. I don't quite get all of the crow stuff. If the Nazi saw all of the dead crows right after the blackout why didnt anyone else see this or notice all of the dead crows?

In the opening episode during and after the blackout were there any crows show that I didnt notice?
Posted by jojothetireguy
Live out in Coconut Grove
Member since Jan 2009
10490 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 10:18 am to
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Another way this could go is if you can change the future. He may be able to use the knowledge he has now to avoid his fate and that's what his fiancee sees.


first thing that popped in my mind. We all know how strenuous future movies can be when trying to deal with logic so really this could happen. Since the future has not happened yet, changer could be made therefore changing the outlook of her future. But since the only way he could change his future was to see it, if he has changed it, he won't know he did until that moment happens.
Told ya it was confusing
Posted by ChicagoTiger
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2007
5492 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 10:32 am to
quote:

Also, Harold's fiancee says she saw him at their beach wedding. How is that possible if he's supposed to die


I was thinking this too. If I recall, he "dies" in March and the wedding is April 29th, yeah?
Posted by jojothetireguy
Live out in Coconut Grove
Member since Jan 2009
10490 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 10:34 am to
quote:

I was thinking this too. If I recall, he "dies" in March and the wedding is April 29th, yeah?


yeah
Posted by bomber77
Member since Aug 2008
14783 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 10:34 am to
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first thing that popped in my mind. We all know how strenuous future movies can be when trying to deal with logic so really this could happen. Since the future has not happened yet, changer could be made therefore changing the outlook of her future. But since the only way he could change his future was to see it, if he has changed it, he won't know he did until that moment happens.
Told ya it was confusing


It is confusing and how does he know that the changes he makes trying to change the future actually cause the future that he has seen already?
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81265 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 10:50 am to
there was no Harold in gabby union's flash forward if you watched it.

I also thought about Omar when i saw the kid's scar. Its not on Michael K Williams' imdb though.
Posted by jojothetireguy
Live out in Coconut Grove
Member since Jan 2009
10490 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 10:51 am to
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It is confusing and how does he know that the changes he makes trying to change the future actually cause the future that he has seen already?

He does not know it will change it, but based off of her future vision, i think he does change his own future so her future can come true.
i think he has no other option but to try and change the future or else he's dead. Although they never did say that him not seeing anything means he dies. We assume that based off of the one lady who was killed. They could spin that part in a whole new direction.
Posted by Jobu
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
1359 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 11:08 am to
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i think he has no other option but to try and change the future or else he's dead


So that brings me back to the customs agent. Did he arrest him with his bong, just to start changing the future?
Posted by Jobu
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
1359 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 11:09 am to
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It seems to me that she is assuming that the person she sees is her fiancee! If you look at the flashback again, it never shows his face. Just her, her dress, and her barefeet!


agreed
Posted by Jobu
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
1359 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 11:11 am to
quote:

That's what I can't figure out, but I'm sure they have some plan for that. Also, Harold's fiancee says she saw him at their beach wedding. How is that possible if he's supposed to die? Did she maybe just see the wedding scene and lie about him being there?

That's the kinda thing that has me hooked because I can't just stop watching and not find out.


I've got a theory. What if, for whatever reason, the Army got DNA samples they have on files mixed up with another person, who is acutally the person who died in Afghanastan. That's what I'm guessing. I mean hey, it is the military, they've done worse right?!
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