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Is 13 Reasons a PC manifesto?

Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:07 pm
Posted by juice4lsu
Member since Dec 2007
3695 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:07 pm
I still have several episodes left, but just seemed really forced with all the PC stuff:

- focus on bullying
- safe space signs everywhere
- the gay dads, and how Courtney was made fun of
- parents suing school for their daughter killing herself
- everyone being so emotional and no one standing up for what is right
- everyone is a victim

Any other's I missed? Thoughts?
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
11721 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:10 pm to
Considering all of the crap that happens in that school, the safe space signs are pretty ironic.

I don't feel it pushed an agenda, but some might disagree. The amount of gay people in one concentrated suburban high school is pretty unbelievable IMO.
Posted by JustinBRLA
Melbourne, FL
Member since Sep 2006
1096 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:10 pm to
I mean everything you listed is relevant in today's society. Each of those things happens all the time. Not sure what's PC about it. I thought it was a great show, even if in the absence of an all straight white cast with no real problems to speak of.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55689 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:13 pm to
All of those things happen IRL, no?
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
11648 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

The amount of gay people in one concentrated suburban high school is pretty unbelievable IMO.


3 isn't that many.
Posted by juice4lsu
Member since Dec 2007
3695 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

All of those things happen IRL, no?


Not sure...I graduated highschool almost 15 years ago. I guess it is the world we live in today, but it just seemed like a big focus. Was it an agenda? I'm not sure to be honest.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
11721 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:21 pm to
At least 4, but I think they referenced more, then the dads. Maybe it's not a lot for a school with a few hundred students, just a high amount of the main ~25 students the show focused on.
Posted by AlonsoWDC
Memphis, where it ain't Ten-a-Key
Member since Aug 2014
8767 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:25 pm to
Gay people exist in such numbers. Get over it.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83590 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:28 pm to
its a teenage drama

its going to be over the top emotional and irrational and retarded for any adult male
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23200 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:29 pm to
There are like 10 kids with lines in the show and 4 of them are gay.
Posted by juice4lsu
Member since Dec 2007
3695 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:32 pm to
quote:

Gay people exist in such numbers. Get over it.


Not quite true. 4/25 is 16%, where most studies would show only about 2.5% of the population is LGBT.

The thing that bothered me the most was how much a of a wimp both Clay and Hannah are, and the parents suing the school. Could really care less about the gay thing but it just adds more fuel to the fire.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23200 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

The thing that bothered me the most was how much a of a wimp both Clay and Hannah are, and the parents suing the school. Could really care less about the gay thing but it just adds more fuel to the fire


I found everyone but Jeff insufferable.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:38 pm to
Isn't parents suing now just part of the process? I mean families of school shootings sue the school when there is nothing a school can do.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
142072 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

There are like 10 kids with lines in the show and 4 of them are gay
as are, I'm sure, all the show's writers
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
11721 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:40 pm to
Can care less about if someone is gay or straight, it just seemed like a high percentage which would bolster the OP's premise that it was a PC show.

Without going into spoilers, I think they handled one of the gay storylines pretty perfectly.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36665 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:44 pm to
haven't watch 13 reasons yet

is it better or worse than The OC?
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15513 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:46 pm to
Besides showing gay people just existing, the big LGBT thing they did was someone pretending to not be gay and screw someone else over for it. If you got gay agenda out of that, you are just scared that gays exist in the world.

They did push bullying in schools, but that's the entire premise of the show.

The parents were suing the schools because they were grieving and were reaching for fault. However, through this process they actually discovered the school did do wrong by the guidance counselor's frick up.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

The amount of gay people in one concentrated suburban high school is pretty unbelievable IMO
What in the actual frick? What's a proper amount for you?
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
11721 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:52 pm to
My first reply was that I don't think there was an agenda, but I could see how someone could think that, and gave an example. I think her story was actually a positive one, the only positive thing about her, by the end of the last episode, and could be a good thing for a kid struggling with their identity to see that it's not something to hide/be ashamed of.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

The amount of gay people in one concentrated suburban high school is pretty unbelievable IMO.


It is a suburb of San Francisco.
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