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Infinity War Rewatch - 2 points of contention
Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:26 am
Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:26 am
In between new episodes of Wandavision I've been rewatching some of the old Avenger movies. Last night I was watching Infinity War, and two things are bothering me about the movie. Now let me just say, I thoroughly enjoy the movie and I don't think these two things take away from the movie. Also I haven't read the comics, so I don't have any source material clouding my take.
1. The Hulk's portrayal in the movie. first off getting absolutely rag dolled by Thanos at the beginning, then his refusal to fight at the pivotal battle at the end of the movie. sure hulk might get beat by thanos at the beginning, but his refusal to fight doesn't make any sense.
2. Wanda holding off thanos with half of her attention on destroying the mind stone in Vision's head, not just thanos but thanos with 5 of 6 infinty stones.
If she just turns full attention to Thanos here they might actually beat him here, with thor flying in with Storm breaker. How powerful is she really? and If she's that powerful, how come in endgame her and Carol Danvers didn't team up and just totally frick thanos up. In end game danvers basically overpowered thanos with 6 stones. theres no reason they wouldn't have.
there are other things in the movie, but these two are the most obvious to me that stick out the most.
1. The Hulk's portrayal in the movie. first off getting absolutely rag dolled by Thanos at the beginning, then his refusal to fight at the pivotal battle at the end of the movie. sure hulk might get beat by thanos at the beginning, but his refusal to fight doesn't make any sense.
2. Wanda holding off thanos with half of her attention on destroying the mind stone in Vision's head, not just thanos but thanos with 5 of 6 infinty stones.
If she just turns full attention to Thanos here they might actually beat him here, with thor flying in with Storm breaker. How powerful is she really? and If she's that powerful, how come in endgame her and Carol Danvers didn't team up and just totally frick thanos up. In end game danvers basically overpowered thanos with 6 stones. theres no reason they wouldn't have. there are other things in the movie, but these two are the most obvious to me that stick out the most.
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:29 am to Emteein
Thor arrives in Wakanda- best moment in MCU movie history.
Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:30 am to Emteein
I think with Wanda, especially at this time as we've learned through the series that she doesn't know the source of her power. The more emotional she gets the more powerful. This is right after she had to "kill" Vision so her emotions were running extremely high. She didn't know how to tap in to that and right now still doesn't which is what I think Agatha is trying to get out of her.
If anything, it actually is kind of foreshadowing this show to a degree.
If anything, it actually is kind of foreshadowing this show to a degree.
Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:30 am to Emteein
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and If she's that powerful, how come in endgame her and Carol Danvers didn't team up and just totally frick thanos up.
she basically had Thanos ripped to pieces in endgame without the help of Danvers.
she would wipe the floor with Danvers without even breaking a sweat.
Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:31 am to Emteein
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If she just turns full attention to Thanos here they might actually beat him here, with thor flying in with Storm breaker. How powerful is she really? .
I mean when she came back from being dusted she was kicking the shite out of Thanos 1 v 1 until he had to do his rain fire trick.
I guess destroying the Mind Stone was the only way they could completely guarantee that Thanos - nor anyone else for that matter - could never get their hands on all 6 stones.
Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:32 am to schatman
quote:First time seeing in a packed theater, I wish I could re-live the moment.
Thor arrives in Wakanda- best moment in MCU movie history.
Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:33 am to Emteein
I like The Russos but they fricked over Hulk pretty bad in both movies, there was no pay off to his essentially sitting out Pt 1....just ho hum oh yeah we're combined now. Didn't even get to rampage in that final battle scene much less get another shot at Thanos.
They also made banner a goofy dork in part one. He was more comic relief...Siri dunking on him, the kneeling thing, tripping in the hulk buster, the line when Thor came.
They also made banner a goofy dork in part one. He was more comic relief...Siri dunking on him, the kneeling thing, tripping in the hulk buster, the line when Thor came.
Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:34 am to schatman
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Thor arrives in Wakanda- best moment in MCU movie history.
+1
this also made fat thor even worse though
Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:35 am to schatman
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Thor arrives in Wakanda- best moment in MCU movie history.
Skinny Steve Rogers jumps on a "live" grenade.
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Thor arrives in Wakanda.
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Peggy Carter tries on sweaters.
Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:35 am to Emteein
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2. Wanda holding off thanos with half of her attention on destroying the mind stone in Vision's head, not just thanos but thanos with 5 of 6 infinty stones.
If she just turns full attention to Thanos here they might actually beat him here, with thor flying in with Storm breaker. How powerful is she really? and If she's that powerful, how come in endgame her and Carol Danvers didn't team up and just totally frick thanos up. In end game danvers basically overpowered thanos with 6 stones. theres no reason they wouldn't have.
I've thought about that before as well. She seems to be one of, if not THE most powerful of all of them. She was destroying a stone (which takes lots of power), while holding off Thanos as you said, literally one-handed.
They made such a big deal about how powerful you have to be to wield the stones. It's one reason it sort of bugged me when Tony Stark ultimately snapped everything away in Endgame. Because ultimately he's not a "superhero," at least in the sense of having super powers. He's a man aided by technology. Now, I guess you can argue that tech helps him wield the stones, but who knows. And I know it kills him, and it made the entire Marvel story come full circle, so I thought it was awesome. But it still bugged me a little bit.
Also, another point on Wanda. When she kills one of the Thanos henchmen (henchwomen), she just lifts her into that giant wheeled weapon thing. I'm like why doesn't she just do that to everybody? It would cause a lot less death and destruction, and people wouldn't be fighting all over the place.
Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:37 am to Emteein
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2. Wanda holding off thanos with half of her attention on destroying the mind stone in Vision's head, not just thanos but thanos with 5 of 6 infinty stones.
She was about to frick his shite up with the full gauntlet in Endgame, so I don't really have issue with this.
Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:38 am to BilJ
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this also made fat thor even worse though
Yeah, I know the MCU had plenty of great comedic moments but I wish they didn't lean so heavily into comedy for Thor in Endgame.
He was depressed, he was supposed to be depressed. He probably relived in his head "Why didn't I go for the head?" every day of his life for 5 years. He probably blamed himself for losing and all those people being dusted.
They should've leaned into that. Instead we got fat Thor that was in his mom's basement with War Machine cracking cheese wiz jokes.
Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:43 am to CocomoLSU
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Wanda. When she kills one of the Thanos henchmen (henchwomen), she just lifts her into that giant wheeled weapon thing. I'm like why doesn't she just do that to everybody? It would cause a lot less death and destruction, and people wouldn't be fighting all over the place.
That's like asking why Gandalf didn't get the eagles to fly Frodo to Mount Doom.
Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:47 am to Emteein
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1. The Hulk's portrayal in the movie. first off getting absolutely rag dolled by Thanos at the beginning, then his refusal to fight at the pivotal battle at the end of the movie. sure hulk might get beat by thanos at the beginning, but his refusal to fight doesn't make any sense.
it was the first time hulk got thoroughly whipped. the hulk side of the banner/hulk mentality is that of a child. so he was scared. Remember this is before the proper merger into professor hulk.
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2. Wanda holding off thanos with half of her attention on destroying the mind stone in Vision's head, not just thanos but thanos with 5 of 6 infinty stones
Scarlet witch is probably one of the strongest mcu characters but she just doesnt know it. i think in that moment her emotional stress brought out more power than she realized she had.
This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 10:49 am
Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:47 am to CocomoLSU
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It's one reason it sort of bugged me when Tony Stark ultimately snapped everything away in Endgame. Because ultimately he's not a "superhero," at least in the sense of having super powers.
+1 it's actually a really bad scene. We saw how much Hulk struggled putting it on and snapping his fingers. Tony gets a little jolt and proceeds. I lol at that whole sequence.
Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:51 am to Emteein
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disagree, Thor's realization that he didn't need Mjölnir in Ragnarok and fuggin lightning flying out of his eyeballs was
best moment in MCU movie history.
agree with this disagreement
Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:56 am to Nutriaitch
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she would wipe the floor with Danvers without even breaking a sweat.
Lol, no. Wanda aint even bullet proof. She is powerful magically though.
Hell Monica Rambeau would make her sweat reading about her powers and judging by the last episode.
This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 11:02 am
Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:59 am to schatman
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Thor arrives in Wakanda- best moment in MCU movie history.
He Who Is Also Worthy would disagree with you.
Posted on 3/5/21 at 11:01 am to Emteein
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disagree, Thor's realization that he didn't need Mjölnir in Ragnarok and fuggin lightning flying out of his eyeballs was
best moment in MCU movie history.
"Are you the god of hammers?" is the most dad thing ever said in a Marvel movie.
"Getting my arse whipped here Dad. Mind just telling me what I need to do?"
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