re: I have heard that "The Patriot" is terribly inaccurate and offensive to the British

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Horrible fricking movie

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People always say this.

What's horrible about it?

I swear ... some miserable America-hatin' freaks...


So what?

It's a pretty decent movie that is fun to watch around the 4th of July...along with a rewatch of HBO's "John Adams."



Do all of you commie bastards hate Rocky IV, too ... because it may offend a few Russians?


Y'all gonna bash "Midway" tomorrow because it makes a few Japs cry?

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What's horrible about it?

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It was just unbelievably cliche ridden, then degenerating into mindless action. Nothing at all was compelling about it. It might be the most disappointed I ever was walking out of a movie. It was presented as a serious effort, when in fact it was no more serious than, say, Independence Day.

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Would you be offended if the movie was bashing the US?

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Uhhh, plenty of movies do this in roundabout ways.

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It was presented as a serious effort


Well acted
Well scripted
Well shot

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Did you tear up at the end when the one token slave character fought with them and the mean colonist extra said he was honored? It doesnt get worse than that.

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You had no feeling at all when a man had to watch his son die?

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Yes, I had the awful feeling i was being manipulated



I agree with whoever brought up Independence Day. The Patriot is unwatchable because it takes itself so seriously but the dramatic material is beyond awful. If it was more tongue in cheek and self aware it could be ok, like Independence Day was self conscious of its limitations and managed to be entertaining. Instead it tries to be Braveheart but with one of the most shallow, cliched scripts imaginable and absurd overacting.

At least once a month BBC America plays it, usually twice in the same night.

The Victors write the history.

Everyone knows that.

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Hahaha at people thinking atrocities like the church burning scene did not happen. People need to read a history of the war in SC

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The revolution in South Carolina was brutal. It was basically a civil war. Neighbor vs Neighbor.

However there is no evidence of any event involving burning a church full of townspeople ever happening.

In 2006, Mel Gibson was making a patriot style movie about the civil war that showed all of the evil atrocities committed by the north against the innocent confederacy, but it was shut down

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In 2006, Mel Gibson was making a patriot style movie about the civil war that showed all of the evil atrocities committed by the north against the innocent confederacy, but it was shut down

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Sir: "I have the honor to report that I was with the command of Brevet Major- General Burbridge in the attack on Saltville, Va., October 2, 1864, and that I was left with the wounded and was captured October 3, and paroled by Major-General Breckinridge."

"I would state that on Monday morning, October 3, there came to our field hospital several armed men, as I believe soldiers in the Confederate service, and took 5 men, privates, wounded (negroes), and shot them."

"I would further state that on Friday evening, October 7, at Emory and Henry College Hospital, Washington County, Va., to which place our wounded had been removed, several armed men entered the said hospital about 10 p.m. and went up into the rooms occupied by the Federal wounded prisoners, and shot 2 of them (negroes) dead in their beds."

"I would further state that on Saturday, October 8, at Emory and Henry College Hospital, several armed men wearing the Confederate uniform, and, as I believe, soldiers in the Confederate service, entered the same hospital about 4 p.m., overpowered the guard that had been placed there by the surgeon in charge, and went up into the rooms occupied by the Federal wounded prisoners, and shot Lieut. E. C. Smith, Thirteenth Regiment Kentucky Cavalry, dead in his bed, where he lay severely wounded.

They at the same time called out for the other Federal officers confined there, particularly Colonel Hanson, Thirty- Seventh Regiment Kentucky Volunteers, and Captain Degenfeld, Twelfth Ohio Cavalry, swearing that they intended to kill all of them; and I believe that they were only prevented doing so by the exertions of Surgeon Murfree, the surgeon in charge, the steward, Mr. Acres, and the other attendants of the hospital. I would also further state that Surgeon Murfree, the other surgeons, and the hospital attendants did all in their power, even at the risk of their lives, to prevent the perpetration of these outrages; and that they assisted in removing Colonel Hanson and Captain Degenfeld, as well as myself, to a place of safety."

"I would further state that we left about 70 of our wounded prisoners in the said hospital, and that I have been informed that these outrages have been perpetuated on them since we left there." "Respectfully, your obedient servant, WM. H. GARDNER, Surgeon, Thirtieth Regiment Kentucky Volunteer Infantry"

[Source: Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies, Series I, Vol. XXXIX, Part I, pp. 554-555.]

"Upon the capture of Plymouth by the rebel forces all the negroes found in blue uniform, or with any outward signs of a Union soldier upon him, was killed. I saw some taken into the woods and hung. Others I saw stripped of all their clothing and then stood upon the bank of the river with their faces riverward and there they were shot. Still others were killed by having their brains beaten out by the butt end of the in the hands of the rebels. All were not killed the day of the capture. Those that were not were placed in a room with their officers, they (the officers) having previously been dragged through the town with ropes around their necks, where they were kept confined until the following morning, when the remainder of the black soldiers were killed."

"The regiments most conspicuous in these murderous transactions were the Eighth North Carolina and, I think, the Sixth North Carolina."

"SAMUEL (his x mark) JOHNSON.

Witnessed by John L. Davenport, lieutenant and acting aide-de-camp. Sworn and subscribed to before me this 11th day of July, 1864. John Cassels, Captain and Provost- Marshal." [Source: Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies, Series II, Vol. VII, pp. 459-460.]