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re: I didn't like Sicario. It kinda sucked.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 4:16 pm to PhilipMarlowe
Posted on 1/23/16 at 4:16 pm to PhilipMarlowe
Does it bug anyone else when they show 8 different "location establishing shots"?
I don't need 30 seconds of desert shots to tell me you're in Arizona. One or two will do
I don't need 30 seconds of desert shots to tell me you're in Arizona. One or two will do
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Posted on 1/23/16 at 4:43 pm to Lester Earl
I thought she was very convincing for LEO in what she did.
It was only when she was brought into the whole fricked up situation where it was obvious that she was not only completely out of her element, but that she was a pawn and everything she was hoping to accomplish was just idealistic bullshite
It was only when she was brought into the whole fricked up situation where it was obvious that she was not only completely out of her element, but that she was a pawn and everything she was hoping to accomplish was just idealistic bullshite
Posted on 1/23/16 at 5:48 pm to Biggereztiger
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It was slow and boring.
I just don't see it, I enjoyed every second of the movie. It was taut and intense.
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Some intense moments but no soundtrack to help move it along killed it
lol, the score for this movie was great and is a big reason it was so intense.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 5:55 pm to Biggereztiger
Jesus Christ you're a lost cause. Stick to fast n furious. That seems to be more your speed.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 6:36 pm to PhilipMarlowe
Yeah because I don't like Sicario I'm automatically a fast and furious fan boy?? I've never even watched the first one.
I just thought the plot was stale and the movie drug along
I just thought the plot was stale and the movie drug along
Posted on 1/23/16 at 7:09 pm to Biggereztiger
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I just thought the plot was stale and the movie drug along
Yep. You're a moron.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 7:13 pm to Biggereztiger
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but no soundtrack to help move it along killed it.
One of the best scores of the year. Sorry it didn't have 2 chainz bumpin throughout to make it feel "faster"
Posted on 1/23/16 at 7:39 pm to Biggereztiger
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Biggereztiger
You're stupid
Posted on 1/23/16 at 8:00 pm to Biggereztiger
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just thought the plot was stale and the movie drug along
What would you have liked the plot to be like? It's goal was to give a realistic representation of the current war on drugs and how they have to handle things. And it did just that IMO
Posted on 1/23/16 at 9:15 pm to jg8623
Man y'all go right to personal attacks if someone has a different view of a movie?
Sad
Sad
Posted on 1/23/16 at 9:49 pm to Biggereztiger
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It was slow and boring.
So basically you wish Michael Bay would have directed it.
It's a really good movie. Slow burn, yes. But the directing and acting both showed off a well-polished script.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 9:54 pm to Biggereztiger
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Does it bug anyone else when they show 8 different "location establishing shots"?
I don't need 30 seconds of desert shots to tell me you're in Arizona. One or two will do
Clearly you miss the point of longer establishing shots if you think the directors goal is to simply tell you the setting. You also have to pay attention to the score that's playing during each shot, the colors they're using for it, how wide the lens is, etc.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 11:22 pm to Biggereztiger
I liked the movie. Though I can certainly see where some would say it was slow and a bit boring. But to me that was one of the strong points of the movie. Every movie doesn't need to go 100 mph. It was definitely suspenseful in parts, and kept me waiting to see what was going to happen next.
Posted on 1/24/16 at 4:56 am to KingSlayer
To everyone on page 2-
I understand what they were trying to do. I just don't think it worked! I'm not asking for a Michael Bay film with explosions every scene. I just think they could've moved it along better and still kept the suspense. Maybe it's just the main woman that turned me off to the movie. But I didn't enjoy it as much as others. Maybe the hype set the bar too high.
I understand what they were trying to do. I just don't think it worked! I'm not asking for a Michael Bay film with explosions every scene. I just think they could've moved it along better and still kept the suspense. Maybe it's just the main woman that turned me off to the movie. But I didn't enjoy it as much as others. Maybe the hype set the bar too high.
Posted on 1/24/16 at 8:46 am to jg8623
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One of the best scores of the year.
I haven't seen it, but the praise seems way over the top. Reminds me of Fury Road. Solid, fun movie, but not the best action movie ever like some wanted you to believe.
I'll watch Sicario, but I'm thinking the OP's arguments have some validity, echo chamber be damned.
Posted on 1/24/16 at 9:04 am to Jester
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I'll watch Sicario, but I'm thinking the OP's arguments have some validity, echo chamber be damned.
Well, since you haven't seen it, I would say you shouldn't go into it with the attitude that it's going to suck or that it may suck. You know a few things about it that can prepare you for it, but don't listen to the hype or the hate. Just enjoy it with the understanding that it's a slower movie, that Kate is not a useless piece of the movie, and that the small things matter in it. In earlier threads, people got lost in the rather simple plot because they missed parts of it.
Posted on 1/24/16 at 10:51 am to Biggereztiger
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just thought the plot was stale and the movie drug along
I saw it in theaters and I was on the edge of my seat practically the entire time. The tension was palpable and the score and cinematography were amazing. I also think it was one of the best films of 2015, but then again I don't have the movie tastes of a 12 yr old.
Posted on 1/24/16 at 1:36 pm to Biggereztiger
The chick wasn't the "main" character...the beginning made us think so but she was just a small pawn in a much bigger story...kind of wish they had elaborated on that and the results of "jefe's" death
Posted on 1/26/16 at 8:52 am to kick6OBX
Watched it last night. Really enjoyed it.
***spoilers***
Even though I liked the dramatic effect it had, the bodies in the wall was over the top and didn't make a whole lot of sense. The smell of that many bodies would engulf that whole neighborhood. It was super creepy, but unrealistic.
Also, it didn't seem necessary for Alejandro and the delta team to have to go through all the trouble of infiltrating the tunnel just so he could hijack the police car to pull over Manuel. It seems like he could have gotten to Manuel without having to do all of that. Not that big of a deal, but kind of confusing.
Also, I understand that Alejandro was a prosecutor in Juerez, but after his family gets murdered, did he become a hitman for the rivaling Columbian cartel? And he is also being used as a hitman for the CIA?
I am not of the belief that Alejandro raped Guillermo in the interrogation. Kind of strange that so many people think that. Would be totally random and odd if that is really what was supposed to be going on in that scene.
Benicio was so good in this, as was Brolin. The cinematography and score were both incredible.
***spoilers***
Even though I liked the dramatic effect it had, the bodies in the wall was over the top and didn't make a whole lot of sense. The smell of that many bodies would engulf that whole neighborhood. It was super creepy, but unrealistic.
Also, it didn't seem necessary for Alejandro and the delta team to have to go through all the trouble of infiltrating the tunnel just so he could hijack the police car to pull over Manuel. It seems like he could have gotten to Manuel without having to do all of that. Not that big of a deal, but kind of confusing.
Also, I understand that Alejandro was a prosecutor in Juerez, but after his family gets murdered, did he become a hitman for the rivaling Columbian cartel? And he is also being used as a hitman for the CIA?
I am not of the belief that Alejandro raped Guillermo in the interrogation. Kind of strange that so many people think that. Would be totally random and odd if that is really what was supposed to be going on in that scene.
Benicio was so good in this, as was Brolin. The cinematography and score were both incredible.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 9:04 am to Rohan2Reed
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It's a really good movie. Slow burn, yes. But the directing and acting both showed off a well-polished script.
I wouldn't even call it a slow burn. I felt pretty tense throughout.
I saw a good write up on the main character on reddit today.
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With Sicario, they really make you believe that the story is Blunt's. Del Toro is introduced as a bodyguard of sorts and him being the driving force behind what's going on isn't revealed until you start learning about him.
Del Toro starts as seemingly a good guy, he's thought to be an FBI/CIA/etc. agent of sorts. Then we see, from his nightmare on the plane, that he's a little more twisted up inside than your average agency grunt. He reveals himself to be smarter and more capable during the first border crossing as he teaches Blunt. And he further cements himself as a good guy when he saves Blunt from getting killed/raped/etc.
In the middle of all of that, there's that short moment at the water cooler where Del Toro reveals himself as previously being a good lawyer that did things the right way. From that moment on, when he water boards the cartel member, it's all down hill and you start to see what a monster he has become. You don't fully understand the rationale behind his transformation until the end when you learn that his family was brutally massacred as a way of punishing him. The fact that that gets slowly revealed to you over time, as you learn the facts with Blunt, is what makes the movie so intense and engaging. Then you see at the end that there's no going back for him.
Del Toro isn't the protagonist, but this is his story (as the title implies). It's a villain's story with Del Toro playing a very convincing villain. However, the fact that it is a villain's story and not a hero's (Blunt) story isn't revealed immediately. This is the masterful part of the plot (I think), because you're normally supposed to feel the hero's redemption or success with the hero, but that never happens to our "hero". As the audience, we're constantly on edge, trying to figure out where we (as Blunt) fit into the story and where our triumph will be (Blunt is doing the same; trying to make sense of an intense situation). It never comes because the movie was never about our triumph. It breaks the archetype of what to expect, but it does it in a fairly subtle way.
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