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How do U feel about the modernizing of cameras used for films?
Posted on 12/14/14 at 5:26 am
Posted on 12/14/14 at 5:26 am
My opinion is they should have also kept the old school cameras and old school filming techniques used for films back in the day.
Example: Remember those old school martial arts flicks? Well, today's modern cameras can't capture the feel and look if producers were to try to remake or reboot those kinds of old school martial arts flicks. Jet Li tried it and failed due to modernization.
Example: Remember those old school martial arts flicks? Well, today's modern cameras can't capture the feel and look if producers were to try to remake or reboot those kinds of old school martial arts flicks. Jet Li tried it and failed due to modernization.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 6:58 am to regularshow
Cinematography is dying.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 7:51 am to Breesus
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Cinematography is dying.
i think Emmanuel Lubezki fans would disagree with you. It's adapting to a climate where producers are tighter than ever with budgets, so affordable modern technology is the norm. You will see some films still shot in 16mm or 35, but with the DI process what it is you can achieve certain looks in post.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 11:34 am to regularshow
Which Jet Li movie are you talking about? You're crazy if you don't think Ip Man or Ong Bak stands up to the best movies from Bruce Lee or the Shaw brothers.
As for cinematography, try watching anything filmed by Roger Deakins.
As for cinematography, try watching anything filmed by Roger Deakins.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:25 pm to Tigerholic
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Cinematography is dying.
Hell of job showing your ignorance here.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:25 pm to regularshow
there is a documentary about tech in films that you would probably enjoy. it focuses on cameras a good bit
it was on netflix and i'm trying to think of the name
it was on netflix and i'm trying to think of the name
Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:27 pm to regularshow
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My opinion is they should have also kept the old school cameras and old school filming techniques used for films back in the day.
You mean like Twelve Years A Slave, Les Mis, Beasts of the Southern Wild, Lincoln, Mud..
Try not to make sweeping generalizations that expose your naivety.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:31 pm to Rohan2Reed
nolan is a film guy, too
Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:39 pm to Tigerholic
Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
Side by Side
I'm a fan of film. It looks better. Has texture.
I'm a fan of film. It looks better. Has texture.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:57 pm to GeauxTGRZ
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Side by Side
thank you
Posted on 12/14/14 at 1:15 pm to regularshow
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those old school martial arts flicks? Well, today's modern cameras can't capture the feel and look i
I'm not sure what you're talking about, but I'm pretty sure you aren't either.. there really isn't anything from old school analog camera work that can't be mimicked with digital effects. Modern cinescope cinematic have all but mastered the duplication of "old school" filmography.
You seem to fail at having a clue at whats actually possible.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 1:51 pm to Jagd Tiger
One more example...
The modern B&W look does in no wise surpass the old school B&W look.
Have U seen shows like Peter Gunn or Mike Hammer or Alfred Hitchcock Hour? The B&W look and feel in these are a "real" beauty. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Real beauty lies in these:
Old school kinds of films used.
Old school cameras.
Old school filming techniques.
The modern B&W look does in no wise surpass the old school B&W look.
Have U seen shows like Peter Gunn or Mike Hammer or Alfred Hitchcock Hour? The B&W look and feel in these are a "real" beauty. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Real beauty lies in these:
Old school kinds of films used.
Old school cameras.
Old school filming techniques.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 2:19 pm to regularshow
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Old school cameras.
you don't even need a camera to make video that looks like "old school" black and white...
LINK
you can add flicker, jitter, graininess, blur, atmospheric lighting, and a thousand other things that add up to the "old school" black and white look, it is all easily duplicated now digitally in dozens of programs like photoshop, and of course there are still old school techniques being used like Abrams "screen flare" and mirror basics.
My families first TV's were black and white and yes I've watched plenty of movies Terd Turner hasn't got his hands on yet. So yea you can make modern black and white much "cleaner" if you want it to be that way, or you can make it dirty with all the original film flaws of analog film, dust mots and projector trash included.
With ever increasing film speeds and resolutions well beyond 1000's of lines, it's getting to the point the limit is only what your imagination can come up with.
Your problem is that nobody want's the old fashioned cine imagery of yesterday, it's not that it can't be done. The art may be lost, but the ability and technique is still all possible.
I can somewhat appreciate this, I have a penchant and admiration for old school audio, analog quadraphonic systems, I think they're better in their own right than modern 7.1 superdolby digital-ESP or whatever they're selling these days. The problem is only 1 person in a thousand agrees with me, or you.
This post was edited on 12/14/14 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 12/14/14 at 2:26 pm to Jagd Tiger
I think he is more saying that he prefers the look of actual film over digital when he is talking about old school techniques. I agree with him on that part. You can toss a bunch of filters on shite in computer but you still aren't going to get the same look actual film gives you. Sure it'll be similar but it just isn't the same when you see them side by side.
We prefer to use film where I work but the reality of the situation is it can get really expensive and time consuming to go that route.
We prefer to use film where I work but the reality of the situation is it can get really expensive and time consuming to go that route.
This post was edited on 12/14/14 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 12/14/14 at 2:41 pm to Dr RC
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I think he is more saying that he prefers the look of actual film over digital when he is talking about old school techniques.
right but he's also saying that it can only be done with old, low speed, super 16's that Howard Hughes would use 30 of to make a movie. That's the part where he is wrong.
You could make this look a lot grainier, jitterier and over all archaic by adding more effects. The reason they didn't is because modern movie goers don't want it, not because it can't be done.
Posted on 12/14/14 at 5:30 pm to Tigerholic
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Cinematography is dying
Do you even know what cinematography is?
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