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re: House of Cards: Full Season Discussion (WITH SPOILERS)
Posted on 3/1/15 at 9:44 pm to jmarto1
Posted on 3/1/15 at 9:44 pm to jmarto1
Pretty much agree with a lot of what I'm reading in here. I still enjoyed watching this season, but it felt way off. Almost like a completely different show.
They had way too many stupid subplots that ended up being meaningless. I actually love Stamper but to have him mope around for an entire season? Why was the Rachel thing drug out until the finale? Does anyone actually give a shite about Remy and Jackie? Even Frank didn't feel like the same character. He was shockingly inept the entire season and way behind his opponents. And Claire. I've always disliked her, but she took it to an all new level. I can't tell if the writers actually believe in the BS she spouts or if they know she's an actual idiot. The whole thing with her and the gay guy in Russia was dreadful.
Netflix is lucky they have the binge model because a lot of people would have bailed on this season if it was week by week.
They had way too many stupid subplots that ended up being meaningless. I actually love Stamper but to have him mope around for an entire season? Why was the Rachel thing drug out until the finale? Does anyone actually give a shite about Remy and Jackie? Even Frank didn't feel like the same character. He was shockingly inept the entire season and way behind his opponents. And Claire. I've always disliked her, but she took it to an all new level. I can't tell if the writers actually believe in the BS she spouts or if they know she's an actual idiot. The whole thing with her and the gay guy in Russia was dreadful.
Netflix is lucky they have the binge model because a lot of people would have bailed on this season if it was week by week.
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Posted on 3/1/15 at 10:04 pm to BamaChick
Claire wants to be Vice President but in name only. It's either going to be a dual partnership which is impossible or Frank is going to kill her ASAP. I think it's time for Meecham to step up for Frank.
Prediction: Season 4 opening scene is a dead Claire Underwood. Frank can't afford to divorce in the middle of a nomination. Sympathy card gets him reelected.
ETA: Frank is more ruthless than anyone gives him credit for and you don't hit your dog cuz it will bite you. Yes, Claire must die!
Prediction: Season 4 opening scene is a dead Claire Underwood. Frank can't afford to divorce in the middle of a nomination. Sympathy card gets him reelected.
ETA: Frank is more ruthless than anyone gives him credit for and you don't hit your dog cuz it will bite you. Yes, Claire must die!
This post was edited on 3/1/15 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 3/1/15 at 10:13 pm to TOKEN
I think she is going to run for President. They kept highlighting how everyone loved her and Frank needed to ride her coat tails. My bet is she realized this and wondered why she can't have more power.
Posted on 3/1/15 at 10:15 pm to jmarto1
Iowa is already over and there is a deadline. She can't run for President but a divorce kills Franks reelection. She is killing Frank out of selfishness but he won't that happen IMO
Posted on 3/1/15 at 10:44 pm to TOKEN
Claire has proven herself to be...shocker...just like any other woman: NOTHING IS GOOD ENOUGH. NOTHING. Her husband is President of the fricking US of A, but she's still not satisfied. WHAT THE frick? I know what the frick...she's a typical fricking gash is what the frick.
However, other than that, I hate just about everyone on that show with the exception of maybe Freddie and Doug Stamper's brother. I really wish Doug would not have killed "Cassie", but he had to, I guess.
And the reason Frank had so much trouble being President, is that he can no longer work behind the scenes. The President can't run his little games and intrigues because he is out front, not in the background. He never had the light shining so directly on him before.
However, other than that, I hate just about everyone on that show with the exception of maybe Freddie and Doug Stamper's brother. I really wish Doug would not have killed "Cassie", but he had to, I guess.
And the reason Frank had so much trouble being President, is that he can no longer work behind the scenes. The President can't run his little games and intrigues because he is out front, not in the background. He never had the light shining so directly on him before.
Posted on 3/1/15 at 11:25 pm to LuckySo-n-So
My goodness some of y'all are too over the top with the hate for C.Underwood
On a different note, I found this on tumblr
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On a different note, I found this on tumblr
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Posted on 3/1/15 at 11:30 pm to FT
Seasons 1 and 2 gave me a certain level of respect for Claire...an ambitious woman who understood that her best path to power was working alongside her husband, not competing with him.
But season 3 makes me outright hate her guts. If she becomes VP or gets a high ranking cabinet position in season 4, I don't know if I have the stomach to watch it. I want to see Frank win without her, and her go back to work at some non profit. Like Frank said at the end, their plan all along only had one chair and she picked a horrible time to come to the conclusion that she can't handle her husband having more power than her. How can she demand to have an equal say in how the commander in chief should run the nation? Your not enough for me? He's POTUS for crying out loud. He gave her opportunity after opportunity to be more than first lady and she failed every single time. This is the most I have ever hated a tv show character. It's so easy to empathize with Frank.
But season 3 makes me outright hate her guts. If she becomes VP or gets a high ranking cabinet position in season 4, I don't know if I have the stomach to watch it. I want to see Frank win without her, and her go back to work at some non profit. Like Frank said at the end, their plan all along only had one chair and she picked a horrible time to come to the conclusion that she can't handle her husband having more power than her. How can she demand to have an equal say in how the commander in chief should run the nation? Your not enough for me? He's POTUS for crying out loud. He gave her opportunity after opportunity to be more than first lady and she failed every single time. This is the most I have ever hated a tv show character. It's so easy to empathize with Frank.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 11:11 am to OMLandshark
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While I think Claire will get back with him in some way, could you believe if a non-elected president's wife tried to be ambassador to the United States for the UN within 6 months of him entering the oval office? It would be one thing if she was qualified, but Congress would laugh its arse off with her seeking the nomination, and ask Frank if they were that fricking openly power hungry to do something so ballsy and stupid. Yeah, Hillary may have become NY's Senator, but she waited 8 years when her husband was out of power and not less than 8 months when her husband is the most powerful person on the planet. Sorry, but that was completely laughable that she would have gotten within even sniffing distance of that position.
I agree. It was the stupidest fricking plot line.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 11:19 am to TOKEN
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Yes, Claire must die!
I hope she does.
I also hope we never hear from Remy again. Useless character now.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 11:22 am to Moustache
After watching this season, I felt the same way as I did after Seasons 3 and 4 of Boardwalk Empire. It's a great show, with great acting/directing, that keeps me entertained. The first season was spectacular and the second season was pretty good. Unfortunately, now we're stuck in a bunch of meaningless subplots and filler.
The thing HoC has going for it is that they don't have 100 different story lines. They can easily get this thing back on track next season without compromising anything.
The thing HoC has going for it is that they don't have 100 different story lines. They can easily get this thing back on track next season without compromising anything.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 11:52 am to TheChosenOne
I think the problems this season boil down to something pretty simple. The first two seasons were focused on the Underwoods ascent to the top. Once they got there the writers didn't quite know what to do, so they panicked and created this internal conflict with their marriage (which to me felt so forced) and filled the rest of the time with mostly terrible subplots.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 1:23 pm to FT
Just finished last night
1) #TeamFrank, not Underwood as Claire is a count with a capital "C"
2) I was underwhelmed by the season as a whole compare to 1 and 2.
3) There's no way Season 4 timeline picks-up anywhere before Frank in his second term, right? No way we can waste any more time on this fricking campaign bull shite.
1) #TeamFrank, not Underwood as Claire is a count with a capital "C"
2) I was underwhelmed by the season as a whole compare to 1 and 2.
3) There's no way Season 4 timeline picks-up anywhere before Frank in his second term, right? No way we can waste any more time on this fricking campaign bull shite.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 1:35 pm to FT
Every time there is a scene with Doug I just feel so bad for the guy.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 1:39 pm to FT
I watched the whole season by Saturday, while still good this season was by far the weakest.
they have too many unresolved problems. besides Doug coming back after sitting around the entire season, there was too much left undone. it felt like they tried to put too much into one season then ran out of episodes.
don't get me wrong I love the show, in my top 3 easily, just compared to the first 2 seasons wasn't as good
they have too many unresolved problems. besides Doug coming back after sitting around the entire season, there was too much left undone. it felt like they tried to put too much into one season then ran out of episodes.
don't get me wrong I love the show, in my top 3 easily, just compared to the first 2 seasons wasn't as good
Posted on 3/2/15 at 1:42 pm to TOKEN
and on the Claire plot.....
I loved Claire in the first to seasons. She was almost the puppeteer behind the scenes. this season they tried to force her character to become something she didn't need to be. I understand it adds drama but now she's leaving... gimmie a break.
what made the show amazing was how much the 2 of them needed each other to achieve their goals.
I loved Claire in the first to seasons. She was almost the puppeteer behind the scenes. this season they tried to force her character to become something she didn't need to be. I understand it adds drama but now she's leaving... gimmie a break.
what made the show amazing was how much the 2 of them needed each other to achieve their goals.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 1:56 pm to TOKEN
If they have her run for vp on Frank's ticket then my suspension of disbelief will have officially been broken too far. It seems like having her run for president is what they were hinting at the whole second half of the season. That's pretty ridiculous but a little more palatable. I hope they come up with something better than both of those though. Things might just be getting too stupid for me.
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 3/2/15 at 2:32 pm to Peazey
I got through episode 4 before I realized that I wasn't enjoying it at all. The marriage stuff hasn't really heated up yet but you can tell its coming. Claire being UN ambassador is an awful idea and she's terrible at it. The Russian plot is overblown and stupid. Its gonna be a while before I can choke down the last nine, especially after this thread
Posted on 3/2/15 at 2:36 pm to Peazey
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If they have her run for vp on Frank's ticket then my suspension of disbelief will have officially been broken too far. It seems like having her run for president is what they were hinting at the whole second half of the season. That's pretty ridiculous but a little more palatable. I hope they come up with something better than both of those though. Things might just be getting too stupid for me.
Honestly, I'd be shocked if they don't do that next season.
And I really don't get why Claire is so beloved. Because she was raped and stood up for a self righteous a-hole because he was gay? Sorry, but I'd like to think our general population is dumb enough to fall for the fact that Claire is not a power hungry inexperienced bitch when her husband makes her ambassador to the UN. I think even the dumbest among us would see through this bullshite (aside from hyper feminists).
Posted on 3/2/15 at 3:10 pm to OMLandshark
My biggest worry that the last few episodes of S3 gave me was that the writers have an agenda with Claire. I felt like they are trying to force her and her agenda down our throats instead of letting the show play out. I'm not sure if the writers realize this, but Claire is a terrible politician. She's weak and incompetent and is pretty much only in the positions she's been in because of Frank. I have no idea why everyone in HoC loves her so much. My fear is that the series ends with her being on top of the world and Frank heading to prison or dead. I will completely despise this show if that is ultimately the end game.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 4:32 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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I thought the season was great. It was engaging and kept my interest throughout. I think this will be one of those season people will appreciate more over time.
I agree. Everyone is so reactionary right now. Think about it. Let it all sink in. It was pretty entertaining. I really enjoyed the scenes with the Russian president. I do wish Doug would have switched teams but I really did empathize with Rachel's character. It's fricking awful what she went through. Probably had it worse than anyone else on the show thus far. Doug is so fricking complex and Kelly gave a hell of a performance this season. I hope he gets some recognition.
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