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"Hated hated hated hated hated this movie." Ebert's review turns 20

Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:52 am
Posted by GeauxTGRZ
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:52 am
Ebert's review of North

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I hated this movie. Hated hated hated hated hated this movie. Hated it. Hated every simpering stupid vacant audience-insulting moment of it. Hated the sensibility that thought anyone would like it. Hated the implied insult to the audience by its belief that anyone would be entertained by it.


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"North" is a bad film - one of the worst movies ever made. But it is not by a bad filmmaker, and must represent some sort of lapse from which Reiner will recover - possibly sooner than I will.


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At the time of its release, Roger Ebert and Gene Siskel considered this to be one of the worst films they'd ever reviewed. Ebert wrote, "I hated this movie. Hated hated hated hated hated this movie. Hated it. Hated every simpering stupid vacant audience-insulting moment of it. Hated the sensibility that thought anyone would like it. Hated the implied insult to the audience by its belief that anyone would be entertained by it." The pair later reviewed it on their television show, where Ebert went on to say that the movie made him "cringe... just sitting here thinking about it." Gene Siskel characterized it as "junk" and said that it made him feel "unclean." The clip of their review would go on to become a popular Internet meme associated with bad movie reviews. When Rob Reiner was roasted at the New York Friar's Club, Richard Belzer asked him to read Ebert's review, Reiner did so, then joked "if you read between the lines, [the review] isn't really that bad." Screenwriter Alan Zweibel keeps a clipping of the review in his wallet, sometimes reading it at public appearances. Ebert's review eventually became so notorious (arguably more so than the film itself) that he later released a collection of negative reviews titled "I Hated, Hated, Hated This Movie."

Posted by Tactical1
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:57 am to
I love this review.
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:10 am to
His pan of Deuce Bigalow is even better. Ebert could trash a movie like no one else. His pans are entertaining as hell. It almost justified the existence of many a horrible film.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:12 am to
I'd say my favorite trashing he did was on "The Good Son".
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:21 am to
Is North that bad?
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:24 am to


Thanks for saving me a buck Roger!
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:59 am to
Ebert WAS one of the worst film critics.

He would give a huge turd a good review then bash a movie like Groundhog Day

And his criticism of rob schneider was almost personal.

This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 12:00 pm
Posted by JumpingTheShark
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 12:03 pm to
Knew it was North just from the thread title.

Ebert
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 12:17 pm to
I think Ebert is one of the best film critics out there because of his ability to articulate WHY films were good or bad. He gave the average film-goer the tools to interpret film. And he was an endless champion of liking movies. He's famous for his bad reviews, but really, Ebert's big contribution was that he genuinely wanted people to like film.

Sure, I disagreed with him. He didn't like the Coen brothers, my favorite directors. He hated Blue Velvet. But part of criticism is actually having opinions.

And the Rob Schneider thing was personal. Schneider received a bad review from another film critic, and attacked the writer in print on a personal level. So Ebert ripped Schneider's weak arse argument apart. It was beautiful. You can't make a personal attack on someone and then complain when they use your words to make you look like a petty a-hole. It's not like Schneider's shitty movies were dependent on good reviews. They were "critic proof". Who cares if the LA times hated your movie? Grow a thicker skin.
Posted by Peazey
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 12:26 pm to
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And the Rob Schneider thing was personal. Schneider received a bad review from another film critic, and attacked the writer in print on a personal level. So Ebert ripped Schneider's weak arse argument apart. It was beautiful. You can't make a personal attack on someone and then complain when they use your words to make you look like a petty a-hole.


I didn't know about this when it happened. I just read the review. The other critic had attacked Schneider on a personal level to start it off with by calling him a "third rate comic." I don't disagree with that, but it seemed to be pretty petty all the way around from all parties involved.

ETA: Schneider would have looked better if his come back wasn't moronic.
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 12:29 pm
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 12:37 pm to
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Dear Jay, What an ugly way to leave the Sun-Times. It does not speak well for you. Your timing was exquisite. You signed a new contract, waited until days after the newspaper had paid for your trip to Beijing at great cost, and then resigned with only an email. You saved your explanation for a local television station. As someone who was working here for 24 years before you arrived, I think you owed us more than that. You owed us decency. The fact that you saved your attack for TV only completes our portrait of you as a rat. Newspapers are not dead, Jay, although you predicted the death of the Sun-Times and the Tribune. Neither paper will die any time soon. Job-hunting tip: It is imprudent to go on TV and predict the collapse of a newspaper you might hope would hire you. Times are hard in the newspaper business, and for the economy as a whole. Did you only sign on for the luxury cruise? There's an old saying that you might have come across once or twice on the sports beat: "When the going gets tough, the tough get going." Newspapers are not dead, Jay, because there are still readers who want the whole story, not a sound bite. If you only work on television, viewers may get a little weary of you shouting at them. You were a great shouter in print, that's for sure, stomping your feet when owners, coaches, players and fans didn't agree with you. It was an entertaining show. Good luck getting one of your 1,000-word rants on the air. The rest of us are still at work, still putting out the best paper we can. We believe in our profession, and in the future. And we believe in our Internet site, which you also whacked as you slithered out the door. I don't know how your column was doing, but we have the most popular sports section in Chicago. The reports and blog entries by our Washington editor Lynn Sweet have become a must-stop for millions of Americans in this election year. After a recent blog entry I wrote about the Beijing Olympics, I woke up at 5 a.m. one morning, when North America was asleep, and found that 40 percent of my 100 most recent visitors had been from China. I don't have any complaints about our Web site. So far this month my Web page page has been visited from virtually every country on earth, including one visit from the Vatican City. The Pope, no doubt. Hope you were doing as well. You have left us, Jay, at a time when the newspaper is once again in the hands of people who love newspapers and love producing them. You managed to stay here through the dark days of the thieves Conrad Black and David Radler. The paper lost millions. Incredibly, we are still paying Black's legal fees. I started here when Marshall Field and Jim Hoge were running the paper. I stayed through the Rupert Murdoch regime. I was asked, "How can you work for a Murdoch paper?" My reply was: "It's not his paper. It's my paper. He only owns it." That's the way I've always felt about the Sun-Times, and I still do. On your way out, don't let the door bang you on the arse.


Jay Mariotti didn't owe ebert a god damn thing and he's free to pursue other opportunities (even if it was a bad choice) ebert who has a tv show throwing a tantrum because someone tried to move on and had a bone to pick with management.

Why even comment on this and then of course, attack his credentials as well. Ebert was a slimy little weasel
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 1:10 pm to
From IMDB:

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Eleven-year-old North has had it with his parents. They are always busy with their careers and don't give North the attention he needs, so he files a lawsuit against them. The judge rules that North should either find new parents or return to his own parents within two months. Thus north starts off on an hilarious journey around the world to find the parents that really care about him.


Doesn't sound so bad.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 1:11 pm to
read Ebert's review
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 1:25 pm to
If thinking Jay Marrioti is an unpleasant little shite makes you a bad person, then sign me up.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 1:29 pm to
i honestly think jay lost his mind a couple years ago. his twitter is sometimes scary to read b/c it's so cryptic and referencing shite going on his his head that we cannot ever know
Posted by Stewie Griffin
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2005
16148 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 1:40 pm to
Jay Mariotti is a terrible person.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
22889 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 1:50 pm to
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Doesn't sound so bad.


Poorly executed though.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20360 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 1:53 pm to
I walked out of North with 10 minutes left in the movie.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 1:59 pm to
I liked it as a kid. I'm sure it would terrible on a rewatch though.
Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 2:16 pm to
I honestly don't know who Jay Mariotti is
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