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re: GoT S7 E3 Thread: 'The Queen's Justice' Maester Thread

Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:05 am to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:05 am to
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I can't imagine any scenario where Jon doesn't die.


I really don't think Jon will die in the end. It's A Song of Ice and Fire.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:07 am to
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Is this what the Maester thread has become?


With the show passing the books and no Middle Ground Thread to act as a buffer, a lot of Hodors have made their way to this thread.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:10 am to
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I really don't think Jon will die in the end. It's A Song of Ice and Fire.

I mean, anything could happen. Ice and Fire might save the known world, but I don't think either will live to tell the tale.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:11 am to
Use the other thread
Posted by Pitch To Johnny
Houston
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:15 am to
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I really don't think Jon will die in the end. It's A Song of Ice and Fire.

I hope you're right, but Jon and Dany have both done enough to have this "song" be about them. Wouldn't surprise me to have one of them poetically die (probably Jon) for the cause. Didn't GRRM say something along the lines that it won't be a warm fuzzy ending, but it will be satisfying?

ETA: Feel free to answer in the other thread
This post was edited on 8/4/17 at 11:16 am
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:19 am to
I think you and many fans are just overthinking the whole thing. I hope you're not disappointed with the conclusion.
Posted by P-Dawg
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:27 am to
Something else I completely missed in the episode, Dany mentions only two of Jon's brothers are dead. How does she know Bran's alive?

On top of that, why doesn't Jon correct her? Jon knows from Sam that Bran went beyond the wall, but he doesn't even know for certain that he's still alive.
This post was edited on 8/4/17 at 11:33 am
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:34 am to
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I'm thinking it's going to be extremely important in WoW. I expect that once Myrcella is killed by either a Sand Snake, or an agent of Varys or LF, I expect Jaime will go swear fealty to Aegon in order to get Tommen spared. At the end, Varys makes sure Tommen is killed by his own mother, and Jaime will murder her. I fully expect Aegon to be sitting on the Iron Throne by the end of WoW.


Well, at least this bit of your fan fiction did not involve rape.
Posted by P-Dawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 11:38 am to
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Well, at least this bit of your fan fiction did not involve rape.


LOL
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 12:14 pm to
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Really the Aegon plot isn't about Aegon, it's about Varys. Varys is by far the most radically changed from the book to the show.


Agree and disagree. The "public" presentation of Varys seems consistent. But his behind the scenes motivations are in stark (pardon the pun) contrast. He's believable as a "servant" of the realm in the show, contrasted with LF. In the books, he's just another LF - he has been pursuing his own "chaos is a ladder" to fuel either Young Griff/Aegon as a Targaryen loyalist OR as the de facto leader of the current Blackfyre conspiracy.

Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99074 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 12:17 pm to
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How many pages did you go back for that weak shite?


I'm actually still catching up and that was my real time thought as I reached your post. Only a couple pages left until I am current in the thread.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 12:26 pm to
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I disagree. I don't think GRRM would kill him and then bring him back to kill him again.


GRRM loves to kill Starks, and as he was running out of Starks to kill he had to bring one back so he could kill him again.

eta: Finally got caught up, and now it's time for the new thread.
This post was edited on 8/4/17 at 12:29 pm
Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 12:27 pm to
This post was edited on 8/4/17 at 12:28 pm
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 12:30 pm to
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So did Marg and that fine piece of arse got exploded


But remember the other thing I said... Sansa hates King's Landing and wants to stay home. She doesn't want to rule the Seven Kingdoms.

GRRM doesn't give characters what they want. In the end, Sansa will be left standing. Cersei, Littlefinger, Euron, Jamie, possibly Dany, and possibly Jon will all be dead by the end of this story. Sansa won't be. Sansa will have to assume a throne she doesn't want, and use the skills she's learned along the way to rule what remains of the Seven Kingdoms.

I just don't get how people think Jon and Dany are going to rule together and live happily ever after, with children, even. Jon is undead. Can Dany even have children? Can Jon?

Don't let your dislike for Sansa or your preference for others blind you. The signs are pointing to her, and unlike many characters still in the show, Sansa is still a character that's developing. That's your big hint right there.
Posted by P-Dawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 3:17 pm to
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Fookin Jian Yang!
This post was edited on 8/4/17 at 3:18 pm
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