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re: GoT S7 E2 "Stormborn" Thread: Maesters Only, Hodors GFY
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:14 pm to CorporateTiger
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:14 pm to CorporateTiger
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Who leads those armies now though? Ellaria allied with Danny for revenge for Oberyn (even though he fricking volunteered for that fight). Is there a good reason for any non-Martell noble to ally with Danny other than the three dragons?
Revenge?
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:15 pm to TechTiger
That would be an interesting reveal. At the same time going back to the city ruled by the woman who tried to have you purged is a questionable decision.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:15 pm to KosmoCramer
Revenge for?
Cersei can make the same pitch to the Dornish nobles she just made to the Reach nobles. No reason it wouldn't work even better considering Ellaria slew the Martell that they swore an oath to.
Cersei can make the same pitch to the Dornish nobles she just made to the Reach nobles. No reason it wouldn't work even better considering Ellaria slew the Martell that they swore an oath to.
This post was edited on 7/24/17 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:16 pm to Sneaky__Sally
I'm not sure she can just dispatch a dragon to guard a fleet without a rider.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:16 pm to CorporateTiger
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She didn't lose Dorne. She lost Ellaria and the Sand Snakes to Cersei and Euron's treachery; the armies are intact.
Who leads those armies now though? Ellaria allied with Danny for revenge for Oberyn (even though he fricking volunteered for that fight). Is there a good reason for any non-Martell noble to ally with Danny other than the three dragons?
Didn't think of this until now but zombieish mountain may be pretty pissed off when he remembers who this new prisoner was with last time he saw her
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:16 pm to CorporateTiger
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Revenge for?
Cersei is about to kill/torture their queen?
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:20 pm to Scoob
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She didn't lose Dorne. She lost Ellaria and the Sand Snakes to Cersei and Euron's treachery; the armies are intact. They were on the way to, not back from there.
This would delay the troop movements, but likely galvanize the populace against Cersei even more.
Dorne's army is still intact. But no one to lead Dorne except for the kid? And no way to get to KL unless they travel via land.
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suspect the next step would be to locate Euron's fleet and have a repeat of what happened to the Slaver's fleets; a dragon air strike.
Im curious about this as Eurons fleet was clearly outfitted with iron all on the ships. Not as flamable as all wood ships
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:20 pm to KosmoCramer
I edited my last post, but to keep this going....
The nobles of Dorne were beholden to House Martell who has ruled there for generations. Ellaria just murdered the last Martell in a military coup. I'm not sure why any noble would give much of a frick about a bastard woman who murdered their Prince getting killed.
I've intentionally been ignoring the improbability of Ellaria being able to rule Dorne, but why wouldn't the Dayne family (for instance) jump at the chance to rule Dorne?
The nobles of Dorne were beholden to House Martell who has ruled there for generations. Ellaria just murdered the last Martell in a military coup. I'm not sure why any noble would give much of a frick about a bastard woman who murdered their Prince getting killed.
I've intentionally been ignoring the improbability of Ellaria being able to rule Dorne, but why wouldn't the Dayne family (for instance) jump at the chance to rule Dorne?
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:23 pm to CorporateTiger
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Cersei can make the same pitch to the Dornish nobles she just made to the Reach nobles. No reason it wouldn't work even better considering Ellaria slew the Martell that they swore an oath to.
The dornish people aren't going to be listening to the woman basically responsible for Oberyn getting his head smashed in.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:28 pm to LNCHBOX
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The Reach people aren't going to be listening to the woman directly responsible for Margaery and Mace and Loras getting blown up.
Yet we just saw Randyll Tarly and others listen to her this episode. I don't know what they will decide, but they have a much more direct reason to hate Cersei than any Dornish nobles.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:36 pm to CorporateTiger
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At the same time going back to the city ruled by the woman who tried to have you purged is a questionable decision.
I'm sure she has had much more pressing matters than Gendry at this point. I mean...where else is he going to go. The purge of Robert's bastards was in season 2. Who the eff cares about that now.
Now the question is how they assimilate him back into the story...he's going to align with Dany/Jon at some point I'm assuming. Maybe he can figure out how to make new weapons with dragon glass.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:37 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
This may have already been discussed, but the dornish poison their blades, and the sand snakes definitely got a few pieces of Euron, so his days are numbered, right?
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:37 pm to MR ORANGE
Could Qyburn be Howland Reed?!?!?!?!
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:46 pm to hambones
I don't know how that would make sense
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:47 pm to CorporateTiger
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Yet we just saw Randyll Tarly and others listen to her this episode.
He doesn't seem too convinced to be on her side, so not sure what argument you're trying to make.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:51 pm to KosmoCramer
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The leaked scene synopsis for 7.1-7.6 has me freaked out.
I know some fricks on this site will intentionally spoil, especially the ones not watching the show that know about the leaks, but hate GoT.
Yeah, some assholes on here will form "theories" as well when they've just read the leaks. 2 or 3 posters in the off season have openly dismissed theories because "leaks say otherwise", which is a bunch of bullshite.
Also if Tiger Ryno enters or makes a thread about this show at all, do not read it. He makes up bizarrely specific theories above his intellect that are clearly leaks and spoilers.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:53 pm to CorporateTiger
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Revenge for?
Elia and her children.
I left my wife and children in your hands, Jamie.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:55 pm to CorporateTiger
She's a mad woman with wildfire. Tarly made it clear to Jaime, that he is a creature of the Tyrells even if he is a hostage.
The traditional Dorne/Reach invasion route is the boneway. Euron has basically just made it so the seige force travels together.
Dorne is special, it's only part of the kingdoms because of intermarriage. Previous attempts to Garrison it when briefly subdued had neat tricks like scorpions falling onto the occupation commander when he rang for tonight's girlfriend.
Dorne never stops fighting. They may bow. They may curtsy. But it's all an act.
The traditional Dorne/Reach invasion route is the boneway. Euron has basically just made it so the seige force travels together.
Dorne is special, it's only part of the kingdoms because of intermarriage. Previous attempts to Garrison it when briefly subdued had neat tricks like scorpions falling onto the occupation commander when he rang for tonight's girlfriend.
Dorne never stops fighting. They may bow. They may curtsy. But it's all an act.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:55 pm to MR ORANGE
Doubtful.
Writers probably never even thought of that.
Writers probably never even thought of that.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 2:57 pm to MR ORANGE
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This may have already been discussed, but the dornish poison their blades, and the sand snakes definitely got a few pieces of Euron, so his days are numbered, right?
I think its understood that they dont always have their blades poisoned.
Seems rather reckless while traveling on a ship.
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