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re: GoT S7 E2 "Stormborn" Thread: Maesters Only, Hodors GFY

Posted on 7/24/17 at 4:29 pm to
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 4:29 pm to
They won't kill the last sand snake. She is too valuable as a hostage.
Posted by BlackAdam
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 4:33 pm to
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As for Tarly, I have no clue what he decides. I do not think that this last episode resolves his decision one way or the other. It is possible he declines based on us seeing Jaime and Bronn seemingly commanding an army instead of him, I just don't think him accepting wouldnt be a shock.


I think Tarly will declare for Cersei. Lannisters will then control the Westerlands the Stormlands, Reach, and have some form of alliance with the Iron Islands.

Dorne will be isolated, and effectively out of play. The North, Vale, and Riverlands will be more concerned with the coming Winter and Cersei can concentrate on defeating Dany.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 4:45 pm to
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They won't kill the last sand snake. She is too valuable as a hostage


And...ya know, titties.
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 4:51 pm to
If the Reach and Dorne stay loyal to Danny, the whole war in the South should be wrapped up by episode 4.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 4:58 pm to
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I think Tarly will declare for Cersei. Lannisters will then control the Westerlands the Stormlands, Reach, and have some form of alliance with the Iron Islands.


Pretty formidable alliance.

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Dorne will be isolated, and effectively out of play. The North, Vale, and Riverlands will be more concerned with the coming Winter and Cersei can concentrate on defeating Dany.


Dorne will play some part in this war between Dany and Cersei, just don't know what. I can see the North staying out of it. You never know with LF, he could double cross whoever at this point of the game. We also don't know about the Riverlands either, especially since they don't really have a leader at the moment. Jon or Dany need to get to the Twins and control it. There also needs to be people in Moat Cailin.
This post was edited on 7/24/17 at 5:05 pm
Posted by Screamer
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:03 pm to
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Im curious about this as Eurons fleet was clearly outfitted with iron all on the ships. Not as flamable as all wood ships


Iron doesn't burn but sails do. He can't remake them while at Sea either. She could put him dead in the water for multiple dragon strikes from the air.But that's the General in me coming out. She's no General.
Posted by rebeloke
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:04 pm to
At some point the North and South need to align against their worst enemy, that is going destroy all of humanity.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:06 pm to
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At some point the North and South need to align against their worst enemy, that is going destroy all of humanity.


That you, Jon Snow?
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:11 pm to
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They won't kill the last sand snake. She is too valuable as a hostage.


Ummm, this is the same girl that tried to kill Cersei's daughter and the daughter of the woman who actually killed Myrcella. She's a bastard who murdered their liege lord, so I doubt she's all that valuable to securing Dorne. The first thing Cersei is going to do is have the Mountain brutally rape and murder her in front of her mother the same well Elia was killed.
This post was edited on 7/24/17 at 5:14 pm
Posted by rebeloke
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:13 pm to
He's not wrong you know...
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:15 pm to
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The first thing Cersei is going to do is have the Mountain brutally rape and murder her in front of her mother the same well Elia was killed.


Can the Mountain even get it up at this point in his life though?
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:22 pm to
She is a Martell. Two sisters, mother, father, uncle, cousin are dead.
Posted by Screamer
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:23 pm to
Does anyone think we will see Nymeria again in the story? I was disappointed that after Nymeria recognized Arya that she didn't run over grab a stick and bring it to Arya and then snuggle with her.

It would be awesome if somewhere before the end of story we would get to see the wolf pack devour some asswipe that is threatening Arya.
This post was edited on 7/24/17 at 5:30 pm
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:28 pm to
She is not a Martell. She is Ellaria Sand. Her only connection to the Martells is that she slobbed Oberyn's knob. In point of fact, she killed the last Martells.

I don't know why any of the noble houses there would get all weepy eyed and seeing bad shite happen to her.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:28 pm to
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At some point the North and South need to align against their worst enemy, that is going destroy all of humanity.

Unless you're absolutely insane, this is a no-brainer. And Dany, by virtue of having dragons at her command, is the preferred choice. If you're on Team Lannister, you still want to make peace with her, so you can deploy dragon fire against the dead.


As I said before, Jaime does what's necessary. I think he'll know of the impending threat and counsel at least a truce of some sort, facing extinction. To not do so would be madness.
But I think Cersei will be entrenched in a losing seige, and just creating as much collateral damage as she can on the way down. I see him becoming increasingly disgusted with her actions, and when she is able to kill one of the dragons (perhaps the most important weapons available), he'll be horrified at the situation... they are going down anyway, and all Cersei is doing is destroying mankind's best chance for survival. That's the straw that pushes him to kill her, I think. He might kill her, himself and the Mountain with wyldfire... I could see him doing a murder-suicide, and for a practical manner, you have to get rid of the giant zombie too.

I want to see how he learns of the Night King, that will be the key to his betrayal of her.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:30 pm to
All this bending the knee crap gets stupid. Renley and Stannis both told Kat that so instead of working together to finish off Lannisters, they divided themselves to the benefit of the Lannisters
This post was edited on 7/24/17 at 5:50 pm
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:36 pm to
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And I believe the Red Viper poisoned Tywin,


He was just trying to discover if the legends about Tywin were true. Alas, that cavern was also absent any gold.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:38 pm to
I know House Velaryon and House Cletigar are minor houses but they have Valyrian ancestry and were allied to the Targaryens even before Aegon's conquest. Plus both their seat's of power are near Dragonstone and are sworn to it. Would be cool if they were mentioned to have allied with Dany.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:39 pm to
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All this bending the knee crap gets stupid. Renley and Stannis both told Kat that so instead of working on together to finish off Lannisters, they divided themselves to the benefit of the Lannisters


The North has hundreds of miles between it and KL, Cersei isn't a true threat to the North at the moment. But an alliance with Dany would most likely secure their fate. Especially if the KotV stay in Winterfell. But...Jon shouldn't just blindly bend the knee until he knows who Dany is and what she's about.

Even then, I don't think he should bent the knee because I would like for one man at least to come out on top of this ever increasing forced girl power bullshite we keep getting. But that's for primarily selfish reasons.
This post was edited on 7/24/17 at 5:40 pm
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 5:41 pm to
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suspect the next step would be to locate Euron's fleet and have a repeat of what happened to the Slaver's fleets; a dragon air strike.


Im curious about this as Eurons fleet was clearly outfitted with iron all on the ships. Not as flamable as all wood ships
Cast iron skillets don't catch on fire when you put them on the stove either... and I wouldn't want to be inside of a giant one being blasted by dragon fire. Instead of being incinerated, you get sauteed.
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