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re: George RR Martin has a message for people who don't think he will finish ASOIAF

Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:12 pm to
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:12 pm to
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an entitled 65 year old brat


You sir, have issues
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:16 pm to
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I really don't have an opinion one way or the other, but if I was 65 and honestly thought I may be in the last stretch of my life (10 years or so) you better fricking believe I would go on any damn vacations I wanted, not "busting my arse". frick a legacy (he already has a great legacy by the way). None of that shite will matter to you when you are dead


You and I see life very differently. To use the great "Silicon Valley" for an analogy, you would have been happy taking the $10M and retiring to a coconut beach somewhere, while I would want to build an empire and be remembered as the guy who started X Company. No one remembers the guy Bill Gates bought Windows from. Everyone knows Bill Gates. And will for a long time to come.
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:16 pm to
Do you want a complex epic finale to this series that leaves a mark as the greatest high fantasy series of all time? Or do you just want to know how it ends and give you the gist of it?

Instead of complaining about all these different things why don't you reread AFFC and aDwD and try and catch what all you missed so you will quit bitching about how those books suck. Because believe me if you've only read them once, you missed a ton
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:18 pm to
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Do you want a complex epic finale to this series that leaves a mark as the greatest high fantasy series of all time? Or do you just want to know how it ends and give you the gist of it?


He can't do that within a decade between books? Spare me the "he must have the time to be a genius writer!" crap when he wrote brilliantly with less time earlier in the series.

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Instead of complaining about all these different things why don't you reread AFFC and aDwD and try and catch what all you missed so you will quit bitching about how those books suck. Because believe me if you've only read them once, you missed a ton


I've read them multiple times. And the accompanying novellas.
You're barking up the wrong tree on this one.

ETA: And where did I say anything about aDwD sucking? Man you're reaching like a motherfricker here.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 3:21 pm
Posted by ShamelessPel
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:19 pm to
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Do you want a complex epic finale to this series that leaves a mark as the greatest high fantasy series of all time?


I have issues? Now it all makes sense. GOAT?
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
20922 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:20 pm to
Exactly...the problem isn't that he goes on vacations; the problem is that he'll be gone for months at a time and that he only writes on his typewriter/1990s word processing sort of ancient computer in one of his two homes in Santa Fe. Last fall he was in New Zealand and Australia for 2 months straight. And everyone is correct that he was home basically every day from December-early June. But it's hard to say how much writing he actually completed during that 5-6 month timeframe. Could he have written about 40% during that time? Sure, but I highly doubt it. Plus it's driving many of us nuts that he won't tell anyone his progress for TWoW since everyone got pissed at him for saying he was almost done ADWD in 2006 when he didn't actually release it till 2011...so of course we're worried.
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
4251 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:24 pm to
Whether you believe it or not by the time it's finished it will be renowned as the greatest fantasy epic of all time. Hell it already is by most critics and fans

Bluegrass- I wasn't specifically talking to you I was simply speaking about fans in general
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 3:26 pm
Posted by OFWHAP
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:29 pm to
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You and I see life very differently. To use the great "Silicon Valley" for an analogy, you would have been happy taking the $10M and retiring to a coconut beach somewhere, while I would want to build an empire and be remembered as the guy who started X Company. No one remembers the guy Bill Gates bought Windows from. Everyone knows Bill Gates. And will for a long time to come.


If you're using the HBO show for comparison, the protagonist was about 24-26 years old when he was given that $10,000,000 offer, not a 65 year-old author that was already recognized as one of the greats of his genre. Bill Gates, on the other hand, is currently only 58 and gave up his position as CEO at the age of 45. His involvement in Microsoft, even as CEO was probably less intense than Martin's involvement in writing these books and helping to develop the HBO series, i.e. Martin writes for himself, whereas Gates had thousands working for him.
Posted by thatguy1892
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:39 pm to
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Because I said he shouldn't go on vacations? My understanding is that he goes on lengthy vacations routinely and doesn't work on anything other than a single typewriter at one of his homes.


Except he doesn't go on lengthy vacations. He's talked many times about his obligations to the Cons that he appears at due to the popularity of his series. He says that during football season is when he gets less of his work done. Which I'm sure most of us can agree on that. He works on three computers. A DOS, an obsolete Windows name a year desktop, and his laptop.

As far as his impression that he leaves, it would not matter to him. He said he started this series because he had already been fairly successful writing novels and TV and he wanted to do something that was just massive and all his own. He was disillusioned with Hollywood, which is what he had just left behind before starting the series and thought that with the way he was going to go with the story one would have ever thought to try to adapt it. This was back in 1991 when the idea came to him from a scene he had thought of about a young boy finding a litter of giant wolf pups whose mother was killed by a stag. What he and everyone else see was 10 years later Peter Jackson showing that Fantasy could be adapted and adapted to a point that it causes a frenzy and shows the monetary power of the fanboy/nerd.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 6:46 pm to
What a dick. I'd be pretty gracious if millions of people gave a shite about my work.
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
20922 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 7:11 pm to
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