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re: George RR Martin has a message for people who don't think he will finish ASOIAF
Posted on 7/9/14 at 1:25 pm to PsychTiger
Posted on 7/9/14 at 1:25 pm to PsychTiger
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I already tried to caution him, but he appears to have doubled down with personal attacks instead.
A blaze of glory.
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 1:34 pm to PsychTiger
I just watch the show.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 1:36 pm to BloodSweat&Beers
GRRM's writing pace is really not any slower than most other writers.
And to all the people saying there's not much to cover from AFFC and aDwD, I completely disagree. ADwD is just as big as aSoS and aSoS was split into 2 seasons. Albeit with some elements from AFFC and aDwD thrown in. There's enough story in the last two books to really do 3 more seasons. But all of the post-HBO show readers are really impatient and just want a glossed over storyline so they can get to the end and find out what happens. Like asoiaf is an episode of CSI Miami. I think if we got basically a summary of what happens from the show as it passes the books then we all will have been cheated.
I hope it takes forever to finish and we continue to get novellas and other books like twoiaf because to me once it's over it's over. And I enjoy the ride that GRRM has created for us
And to all the people saying there's not much to cover from AFFC and aDwD, I completely disagree. ADwD is just as big as aSoS and aSoS was split into 2 seasons. Albeit with some elements from AFFC and aDwD thrown in. There's enough story in the last two books to really do 3 more seasons. But all of the post-HBO show readers are really impatient and just want a glossed over storyline so they can get to the end and find out what happens. Like asoiaf is an episode of CSI Miami. I think if we got basically a summary of what happens from the show as it passes the books then we all will have been cheated.
I hope it takes forever to finish and we continue to get novellas and other books like twoiaf because to me once it's over it's over. And I enjoy the ride that GRRM has created for us
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 7/9/14 at 1:37 pm to PsychTiger
Im just trying to convince the entitled squirts, the author of his own story does not own anyone anything. That's it. when they attack me I attack back.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 1:53 pm to Tiger1242
He doesn't owe the fans a fricking thing, but he owes it to himself to finish the series. Nevermind that he owes it to himself to not be morbidly obese and near death at the ripe old age of sixty-fricking-five.
If he doesn't finish the series, it would be like Michelangelo saying, "Ah, frick it," and throwing down his chisel while still working on the David's legs. It would not be like if he simply keeled over unexpectedly. He's spent nearly 20 years on this work and knows he is getting older.
There are few unfinished masterpieces in the art world, one of them being Da Vinci's Mona Lisa. And let's face it, GRRM is no fricking Da Vinci.
He should be racing, racing to finish this masterwork, with the knowledge that time is fleeting. Nevermind that he may die, what if he begins to get Alzheimer's? At 65, he ought to be busting his arse to get done what will make him live on for years and years to come, not going to ComicCons and going on vacations.
But maybe that's just my own opinion. I can tell you that I would want to cement my legacy, not worry about interviews in which I tell my fans to frick off.
If he doesn't finish the series, it would be like Michelangelo saying, "Ah, frick it," and throwing down his chisel while still working on the David's legs. It would not be like if he simply keeled over unexpectedly. He's spent nearly 20 years on this work and knows he is getting older.
There are few unfinished masterpieces in the art world, one of them being Da Vinci's Mona Lisa. And let's face it, GRRM is no fricking Da Vinci.
He should be racing, racing to finish this masterwork, with the knowledge that time is fleeting. Nevermind that he may die, what if he begins to get Alzheimer's? At 65, he ought to be busting his arse to get done what will make him live on for years and years to come, not going to ComicCons and going on vacations.
But maybe that's just my own opinion. I can tell you that I would want to cement my legacy, not worry about interviews in which I tell my fans to frick off.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:03 pm to LoveThatMoney
I agree with everything you've just said. Time isn't on his side, and as a fan I have thought about his weight and that not helping either.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:09 pm to Finkle is Einhorn
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The Lord of the Rings + The Hobbit total shews the data when they are separate stories
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:15 pm to CarRamrod
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That's it. when they attack me I attack back.
No one attacked you in this thread to the level you have, unless you are GRRM himself.
If you are take your time and please don't kill Arya in the next book.
If not then you need to express why you disagree with someone without resorting to namecalling.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:27 pm to LoveThatMoney
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He should be racing, racing to finish this masterwork, with the knowledge that time is fleeting. Nevermind that he may die, what if he begins to get Alzheimer's? At 65, he ought to be busting his arse to get done what will make him live on for years and years to come, not going to ComicCons and going on vacations.
Going to Cons are probably part of his obligations to HBO and his publishers.
As for the rest of what you said in the quote, you're basically saying he shouldn't enjoy any part of his life and possibly die slumped over his MS-DOS word possessor.
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not worry about interviews in which I tell people speculating on my death to frick off.
FIFY
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:37 pm to thatguy1892
This is one of the dumbest threads and subjects ever.
- Would fans have been as faithful and devout if they knew he didn't care if he finished the story?
- Whoever posed that question probably posed it in a way to save his arse, blaming it on the fans and acting like he is going to die tomorrow.
- Leaving an outline is nowhere near the same as finishing the series yourself. RE: Dune 7 and 7.5.
- Martin lets himself into the spotlight willingly. You want to be an attention whore, deal with the consequences of that desire.
- George RR Martin is a self-entitled piece of crap. Anyone that says otherwise is saying so based on their fanboy attitude towards GoT. I've bought every book, and even have HBO year-round for the show. Doesn't mean I have to like the author.
- His inability to sit down and give his fans the 6th and 7th books instead of putting them off is a bigger F*** YOU than that question.
Anyone that expects Martin to stay ahead of the show is fooling themselves at this point. It won't even be close. He seems to have no sense of responsibility towards his fans to finish the series. Without that, who knows what will happen? Who cares at this point. I'm so tired of this prick and pretty much everything that he does. I don't even want him to have the satisfaction of "altering" the ending that he gave the HBO series for his own ego. Let them run with it and hopefully that is the end of it.
- Would fans have been as faithful and devout if they knew he didn't care if he finished the story?
- Whoever posed that question probably posed it in a way to save his arse, blaming it on the fans and acting like he is going to die tomorrow.
- Leaving an outline is nowhere near the same as finishing the series yourself. RE: Dune 7 and 7.5.
- Martin lets himself into the spotlight willingly. You want to be an attention whore, deal with the consequences of that desire.
- George RR Martin is a self-entitled piece of crap. Anyone that says otherwise is saying so based on their fanboy attitude towards GoT. I've bought every book, and even have HBO year-round for the show. Doesn't mean I have to like the author.
- His inability to sit down and give his fans the 6th and 7th books instead of putting them off is a bigger F*** YOU than that question.
Anyone that expects Martin to stay ahead of the show is fooling themselves at this point. It won't even be close. He seems to have no sense of responsibility towards his fans to finish the series. Without that, who knows what will happen? Who cares at this point. I'm so tired of this prick and pretty much everything that he does. I don't even want him to have the satisfaction of "altering" the ending that he gave the HBO series for his own ego. Let them run with it and hopefully that is the end of it.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:43 pm to ShamelessPel
It's interesting seeing the different kind of responses on different websites. Reddit has a thread on this topic and the majority of people there are defending Martin and telling everyone criticizing Martin to frick off.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:45 pm to thatguy1892
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Going to Cons are probably part of his obligations to HBO and his publishers.
Possibly. Doesn't matter, though. Should have negotiated better or gone to HBO and said, "Look, I can't go to all these anymore. It's seriously hindering my ability to write. And if I don't write, you don't really have a show, even if Dan and David do know the very vague picture of the ending. Let's not kid ourselves, if I don't finish these books, you will suffer a serious loss in revenue, even if you elect to continue the series without my input."
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As for the rest of what you said in the quote, you're basically saying he shouldn't enjoy any part of his life and possibly die slumped over his MS-DOS word possessor.
Because I said he shouldn't go on vacations? My understanding is that he goes on lengthy vacations routinely and doesn't work on anything other than a single typewriter at one of his homes. He should absolutely enjoy life, but if I were him, and I'm not, but if I were, I would eschew at least a few of those vacations in the name of finishing my magnum opus.
I guess I'm more worried about leaving a lasting impression on this earth than going and drinking mai thais somewhere. And if I were lucky enough to stumble upon a story of this magnitude floating around in the ether of my imagination, I would hope that my desire to see it completed would outweigh my desire to chill out on a beach.
But writer's block is writer's block, and sometimes the best way to get through it is to unplug. Just seems like he's unplugging a lot.
And as I said before, I'm sure I would be pissed too if people were sitting there speculating as to my death. I'm pretty sure there's a betting line in Vegas on it. And I'd be pissed if people continued to ask me about it and probably would flip the interviewer off for even bringing it up.
But I think I would also be hard at work finishing the novels, not doing the plethora of other shite he's reportedly doing.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:47 pm to ShamelessPel
Well if you're waiting on D&D to tell the ending of this story then you're really fricked because they've shown nothing to prove they are capable of finishing the story in any way that will leave fans satisfied.
You will get a rushed story that leaves out huge parts that D&D deem aren't important to the story while getting the ending spoiled for you.
And why do people always say he no longer cares? He does care. Very deeply about this series. What he doesn't care for is fans asking every day about when the next book is coming out. And when/if he's gonna die.
Why can't he enjoy his success? He works relentlessly at this series. There are so many things in asoiaf that you haven't even dreamed about that tie in or are clues to the story. It takes time to put all of that together.
You will get a rushed story that leaves out huge parts that D&D deem aren't important to the story while getting the ending spoiled for you.
And why do people always say he no longer cares? He does care. Very deeply about this series. What he doesn't care for is fans asking every day about when the next book is coming out. And when/if he's gonna die.
Why can't he enjoy his success? He works relentlessly at this series. There are so many things in asoiaf that you haven't even dreamed about that tie in or are clues to the story. It takes time to put all of that together.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:54 pm to LoveThatMoney
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At 65, he ought to be busting his arse to get done what will make him live on for years and years to come, not going to ComicCons and going on vacations.
I really don't have an opinion one way or the other, but if I was 65 and honestly thought I may be in the last stretch of my life (10 years or so) you better fricking believe I would go on any damn vacations I wanted, not "busting my arse". frick a legacy (he already has a great legacy by the way). None of that shite will matter to you when you are dead
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:55 pm to LoveThatMoney
He really doesn't vacation much. Before he left for France and Switzerland for his book signing he had been home working on tWoW since November except a one day trip he took to shoot Conan
Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:01 pm to ShamelessPel
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- George RR Martin is a self-entitled piece of crap. Anyone that says otherwise is saying so based on their fanboy attitude towards GoT. I've bought every book, and even have HBO year-round for the show. Doesn't mean I have to like the author.
- His inability to sit down and give his fans the 6th and 7th books instead of putting them off is a bigger F*** YOU than that question.
Oh wow you've read ALL the books and subscribe to HBO?!?! Your dedication to ASOIAF knows no bounds! Thank God we have people like you around to ensure the survival of the series! All Martin has to do is sit around and write 1000+ pages, making sure that the overly complex storyline actually works out and makes sense. Screw him...
If you really want to blame anyone, then blame his publisher for being so lenient with his deadlines.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:03 pm to Finkle is Einhorn
I have no problem with him enjoying life to the fullest.
Also have no problem with him taking time on the books.
My only beef was the alleged clause that the story died with him,in his will.
If he has a deal with HBO to outline the ending then I have zero beef with him.
I also understand fan angst. Robert Jordan died after 11 books. It can happen. That is why some fans are nervous about him finishing.
I remember 20 years ago being pissed at Steven King when he said he would probably die before finishing The Dark Tower series...then he almost did die.
Also have no problem with him taking time on the books.
My only beef was the alleged clause that the story died with him,in his will.
If he has a deal with HBO to outline the ending then I have zero beef with him.
I also understand fan angst. Robert Jordan died after 11 books. It can happen. That is why some fans are nervous about him finishing.
I remember 20 years ago being pissed at Steven King when he said he would probably die before finishing The Dark Tower series...then he almost did die.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:09 pm to OFWHAP
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Oh wow you've read ALL the books and subscribe to HBO?!?! Your dedication to ASOIAF knows no bounds! Thank God we have people like you around to ensure the survival of the series!
It's a point worth making. If I'm going to call someone out, I better qualify it with the fact that I actually give a crap about the subject.
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All Martin has to do is sit around and write 1000+ pages, making sure that the overly complex storyline actually works out and makes sense. Screw him...
Yeah. It's a massive problem with fantasy/science fiction writers nowadays. So many are having problems finishing their series because it's just so many damn pages.
It's just excuses at the end of the day. Someone as talented as Martin who has created a story of this magnitude and popularity surely has the talent in him to finish it. As long as they have people blindly defending an entitled 65 year old brat, you're damn right his story won't get finished.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:10 pm to TigerMyth36
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My only beef was the alleged clause that the story died with him,in his will.
Whoever started that rumor is just trolling. I don't even give statements like that the time of day they are so ridiculous
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:11 pm to OFWHAP
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If you really want to blame anyone, then blame his publisher for being so lenient with his deadlines.
Apparently "we" can't blame anyone because we're not allowed to expect a finish to the series.
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