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re: Game of Thrones Season 5 - Episode 8 :"Hardhome" Readers Thread (Spoilers)
Posted on 6/1/15 at 7:14 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 6/1/15 at 7:14 pm to OMLandshark
This episode was one of the most satisfying episodes, for me anyways. And it wasn't just the epic battle at the end. We finally got Tyrion meeting up with Dany, which they hit out of the park. We got Sansa finally finding out about Rickon and Bran, which I also thought both Sophia and Alfie both were great with their scene. We got confirmation that Valyrian steel is indeed Dragonsteel (although that was pretty much known). And we got a strong hint that Jon is indeed Azor Ahai (or at least a third of Azor Ahai). Arya's and Cersei's scenes were the weakest, but even those moved those character's storylines forward.
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Posted on 6/1/15 at 7:20 pm to Bamatab
Exactly. This episode was the complete package. And honestly, I really loved the Cat in the Canals, especially how they shot it.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 7:29 pm to OMLandshark
quote:Did you not know what was going to happen at the end of this one? The only major characters are Jon and Tormund, and I didn't think there was any chance of either of them dying.
It's just a battle, and you know who is going to win
quote:Did you not know the outcome of this one?
Blackwater
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Shakespeare once wrote: "Brevity is the soul of wit". It just means don't waste my time; keep it nice and simple
I know what it means. Thanks, buddy.quote:What end results? I think they saw how popular it was and decided to do another battle episode.
but once they saw the end results of WotW, they knew they needed to cut it down.
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This is a perfect battle. It was perfectly done. The battle was exactly as long as it needed to be. It was a better episode than Watchers on the Wall by a long shot.
Well, I'm glad it perfectly fit your specific requirements for episodic satisfaction. I liked it too, but Watchers involved several more characters that I knew and gave a shite about. To me, far more was at stake. I did enjoy the irony of D&D inserting yet another strong female character into the episode, only to have her downfall be her unwillingness to fight creatures in child form because her "woman-ness" wouldn't allow her to do so.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 7:29 pm to OMLandshark
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And honestly, I really loved the Cat in the Canals, especially how they shot it.
Same here. I thought the whole Cat of the Canals scene was very well done and captured the spirit of that episode from the books perfectly and with economy.
Here's one nitpick - though not really that - more of an observation:
I thought it was funny that the Septa was coercing Cersci by holding back water when the whole time there was a steady drip of water right behind her.
The "not letting her sleep and checking every hour for a confession" from the books was better. But I guess that would have been hard to portray on film.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 7:55 pm to Mr. Wayne
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Big swing and a miss though Dorne has been largely boring to me in the books as well. There is not a redeeming character in Dorne in the show. They have completely stalled Jaime's arc. Sending him there was a major miss even though I appreciate the effort in sending Bronn. Nice attempt, terrible execution.
Yes it has, but i think that is because they completely screwed up the story lines by leaving out the two best point of views- Arianne and for the most part Doran himself. They are completely missing the whole dynamic between Doran and Arianne which is a huge issue.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 7:57 pm to Methuselah
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I thought it was funny that the Septa was coercing Cersci by holding back water when the whole time there was a steady drip of water right behind her.
I noticed that too.
I was like, just sit under the drop with your mouth open.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 7:59 pm to weagle99
eh, that could be a leak from the chamberpot upstairs
Posted on 6/1/15 at 8:11 pm to blueboy
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Did you not know what was going to happen at the end of this one? The only major characters are Jon and Tormund, and I didn't think there was any chance of either of them dying.
No I didn't know what was going to happen, aside from the fact I was pretty sure Jon was going to survive. But that's where the tension lies. Jon could have stayed back at Castle Black and accepted the horrifying inevitability of the Others taking about 5,000 more wights into their service.
The tension is "will Jon be able to convince the Wildlings to go with him, and if so how many"? Would he only be able to get a few dozen off before they came? Would it result in a battle with the wildlings? Could the Others walk across the water and take over some of their ships? Is it possible they could get everyone? See, that's tension. Is their mission going to be successful or now? To be honest, it looks as if he came too late for the most part. That's why the battle was intense.
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Did you not know the outcome of this one?
I was a Hodor at the time, and while I was sure Tyrion would survive, I wasn't sure about really anyone else. I wanted Stannis to take King's Landing, but really it was simply Tyrion that made me conflicted about it. I was honestly unsure who would win in the end, since Tyrion could have made a quick escape. There was a lot of tension and conflict in that battle.
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What end results? I think they saw how popular it was and decided to do another battle episode.
Ummm, it was the lowest critically rated episode of the season, so not really. My mouse is having trouble copying and pasting, but it was certainly the least critically acclaimed episode of the season
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Well, I'm glad it perfectly fit your specific requirements for episodic satisfaction. I liked it too, but Watchers involved several more characters that I knew and gave a shite about. To me, far more was at stake.
No, far more was not at stake in Watchers on the Wall. If the Wildlings win, they stay and fortify the Wall, and really likely stand a better chance than the Night's Watch did alone.
All of humanity is at stake in this episode. This episode makes it clear that humanity is pretty screwed at the end of this battle and our heroes are blind and have their work cut out for them. That is why everyone is saying "Holy frick" at the end of this episode is because this episode solely shows more than any other what is actually at stake. That's why it is intense and why there is so much tension with Jon and the Night's King "Come at me, Bro" scene.
This post was edited on 6/1/15 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 6/1/15 at 8:12 pm to wildtigercat93
quote:why y'all hating on my theory
That entire thread might be the most hodor thread of all time
Posted on 6/1/15 at 8:38 pm to Bamatab
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we got a strong hint that Jon is indeed Azor Ahai
Sam made my fricking night
Posted on 6/1/15 at 8:58 pm to Fearthehat0307
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are y'all trying to say that it isn't the mad king? lol hodors gonna hodor
A+ bro A fricking +
Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:06 pm to Byron Bojangles III
I still don't know how you guys keep from getting kicked out of the Hodor threads.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:08 pm to Bamatab
Well for one WTC93 and I just laughed
Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:12 pm to Bamatab
quote:i'm a hodor so i'm there legally
I still don't know how you guys keep from getting kicked out of the Hodor threads.
Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:14 pm to Fearthehat0307
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i'm a hodor so i'm there legally
I think according to Cokes once you enter the Maester thread you're a Maester by association
Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:15 pm to Byron Bojangles III
quote:I don't read anything in here. if I make a post I only look at the replies to my post. if I see a post talking about the show I quickly skip it before I see something I don't want to
I think according to Cokes once you enter the Maester thread you're a Maester by association
Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:16 pm to Fearthehat0307
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i'm a hodor so i'm there legally
Sure you are...sure you are.
This post was edited on 6/1/15 at 9:17 pm
Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:20 pm to Fearthehat0307
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I don't read anything in here. if I make a post I only look at the replies to my post. if I see a post talking about the show I quickly skip it before I see something I don't want to
Thing is there's no way to prove that
Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:21 pm to Byron Bojangles III
quote:trial by combat?
Thing is there's no way to prove that
Posted on 6/1/15 at 9:28 pm to Fearthehat0307
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i'm a hodor so i'm there legally
I can't agree with that - the Hodors' position (when they stop drooling) is that if you read ANYTHING other than the Game of Thrones wiki, the Hodor thread or watch anything about the show, other than the show - you're a "reader".
This post was edited on 6/1/15 at 9:29 pm
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