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re: Game of Thrones S4E7 "Mockingbird" badass Maesters thread SPOILERS
Posted on 5/21/14 at 10:01 am to ladytiger118
Posted on 5/21/14 at 10:01 am to ladytiger118
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So even if Oberyn would've defeated the Moutain/not died, you don't think he would've gone back to Dorne?
Not right away.
I think after the confession he would have pushed further. Maybe even discovering proof of the Bastard Joffrey and Tommen were Waters and never Baratheon, born of incest on top of that.
This post was edited on 5/21/14 at 10:02 am
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Posted on 5/21/14 at 10:04 am to Napoleon
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I think after the confession he would have pushed further. Maybe even discovering proof of the Bastard Joffrey and Tommen were Waters and never Baratheon, born of incest on top of that.
I agree, he really seemed to want to tear down the Lannisters top to bottom, problem was that he wanted to kill the Mountain more and had to start at the biggest obstacle.
Posted on 5/21/14 at 10:08 am to Napoleon
Ned already did that 
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Also, if we can trust Maggie the Frog's prophecy, will the Dornish kill Myrcella (if we assume Darkstar hasn't done so already or she could die from infection from her wounds) and thus trigger Cersei into wanting to go to war with Dorne?
. Also, if we can trust Maggie the Frog's prophecy, will the Dornish kill Myrcella (if we assume Darkstar hasn't done so already or she could die from infection from her wounds) and thus trigger Cersei into wanting to go to war with Dorne?
Posted on 5/21/14 at 10:10 am to ladytiger118
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Also, if we can trust Maggie the Frog's prophecy, will the Dornish kill Myrcella (if we assume Darkstar hasn't done so already or she could die from infection from her wounds) and thus trigger Cersei into wanting to go to war with Dorne?
Well, Cersei already has a lot on her plate and it would be downright stupid to go to war with Dorne, with Aegon, Euron, Stannis running in the North, and LF's inevitable open betrayal.
Posted on 5/21/14 at 10:36 am to Napoleon
Where the Seven Kingdoms (ten realms) stand at now.
1 -Riverlands - (Lannister Loyal) Lord Paramount of the Trident - Baelish (without army) The riverlands have changed hands more than any other region due to being crossroads of most lands. Were held by the Iron Isles during the Conquest. The Tullys were upjumped to lords. Then given to Petyr Baelish.
2 - The North -(Lannister Loyal) Currently no Lord Paramount. Intentions were for it to go to House Lannister with Tyrion and Sansa. Held since time was recorded by the Starks who are almost wiped out. Warden of the North is currently Roose Bolton, who was granted this postion by Joffrey (Tywinn)
3 - The West - Lannister Homeland. Held by Tywin Lannister who has no heir that can legally take the household. Lord Paramount of the West Tywinn Lannister.
4 - The Reach - (Lannister Loyal)Lord Paramount Mace Tyrell. Held by the Tyrells since the conquest, a land with the most food in Westeros, and a lot of money. Very large army and land area. Also contains Largest city and Citadel of the Maesters.
5 - The Iron Islands - In Open Rebellion. Held by house Greyjoy of Pike since Lord Harren's death and loss of Riverlands territory. They are viking like and survive by pillaging and stealing.
King of the Iron Islands Balon Greyjoy
6 - The Eyrie - (Neutral) Long held by House Arryn, Lyssa Arryn the current regent and protector/mother of Robin Arryn just died. Robin Arryn is the Lord Paramount of the Vale of Arryn. Though Petyr Baelish was married to Lyssa at time of her death.
7 - Dorne - (Neutral) Prince of Dorne Doran Martell. Long Held by House Martell, the Dornish are descendants of the Rhoynar who came from Essos like the Andals and First men before them. They hold the title "prince" as they were never conquered but married into the Targareyn household and kingdom. Also they allow women to hold titles in Dorne.
8 - The Stormlands (In rebellion but mostly subdued) Lord Of the Stormlands and Dragonstone rightful king by birthright Stannis Baratheon. This was the long time seat of House Baratheon. After Robert's Rebellion it was held by Renly and passed to Stannis after his death, by Stannis. This land like the West sees very little screen or page time.
9 - Dragonstone ( see above) Seat of House Targareyen. Lost in Robert's Rebellion and given to Stannis is uses it as his castle. Hass very little resources and few lesser lords.
10 - The Crown Lands - (Lannister Loyal) This is the land belonging directly to the crown. Held By the bastard Tommen Baratheon who was born of Incest to Cersei and Jammie Lannister. A bastard can not hold titles, so that alone makes the "Lannister-Baratheon" claim to the throne false. But no one has been able to take it away from them either.
This claim launched the war of the five Kings.
Which is now down to only three.
King Stannis
King Balon
King Tommen (replacing King Joffrey)
1 -Riverlands - (Lannister Loyal) Lord Paramount of the Trident - Baelish (without army) The riverlands have changed hands more than any other region due to being crossroads of most lands. Were held by the Iron Isles during the Conquest. The Tullys were upjumped to lords. Then given to Petyr Baelish.
2 - The North -(Lannister Loyal) Currently no Lord Paramount. Intentions were for it to go to House Lannister with Tyrion and Sansa. Held since time was recorded by the Starks who are almost wiped out. Warden of the North is currently Roose Bolton, who was granted this postion by Joffrey (Tywinn)
3 - The West - Lannister Homeland. Held by Tywin Lannister who has no heir that can legally take the household. Lord Paramount of the West Tywinn Lannister.
4 - The Reach - (Lannister Loyal)Lord Paramount Mace Tyrell. Held by the Tyrells since the conquest, a land with the most food in Westeros, and a lot of money. Very large army and land area. Also contains Largest city and Citadel of the Maesters.
5 - The Iron Islands - In Open Rebellion. Held by house Greyjoy of Pike since Lord Harren's death and loss of Riverlands territory. They are viking like and survive by pillaging and stealing.
King of the Iron Islands Balon Greyjoy
6 - The Eyrie - (Neutral) Long held by House Arryn, Lyssa Arryn the current regent and protector/mother of Robin Arryn just died. Robin Arryn is the Lord Paramount of the Vale of Arryn. Though Petyr Baelish was married to Lyssa at time of her death.
7 - Dorne - (Neutral) Prince of Dorne Doran Martell. Long Held by House Martell, the Dornish are descendants of the Rhoynar who came from Essos like the Andals and First men before them. They hold the title "prince" as they were never conquered but married into the Targareyn household and kingdom. Also they allow women to hold titles in Dorne.
8 - The Stormlands (In rebellion but mostly subdued) Lord Of the Stormlands and Dragonstone rightful king by birthright Stannis Baratheon. This was the long time seat of House Baratheon. After Robert's Rebellion it was held by Renly and passed to Stannis after his death, by Stannis. This land like the West sees very little screen or page time.
9 - Dragonstone ( see above) Seat of House Targareyen. Lost in Robert's Rebellion and given to Stannis is uses it as his castle. Hass very little resources and few lesser lords.
10 - The Crown Lands - (Lannister Loyal) This is the land belonging directly to the crown. Held By the bastard Tommen Baratheon who was born of Incest to Cersei and Jammie Lannister. A bastard can not hold titles, so that alone makes the "Lannister-Baratheon" claim to the throne false. But no one has been able to take it away from them either.
This claim launched the war of the five Kings.
Which is now down to only three.
King Stannis
King Balon
King Tommen (replacing King Joffrey)
Posted on 5/21/14 at 11:06 am to OMLandshark
Exactly; but Cersei is stupid.
Posted on 5/21/14 at 11:39 am to ladytiger118
No way Eric isn't a reader, and a Crackpot reader at that.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 1:52 pm to OMLandshark
My favorite cast pic 
Posted on 5/22/14 at 1:58 pm to Napoleon
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Which is now down to only three.
King Stannis
King Balon
King Tommen (replacing King Joffrey)
Balon died.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:00 pm to CockHolliday
not yet
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:01 pm to Warfarer
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he really seemed to want to tear down the Lannisters top to bottom, problem was that he wanted to kill the Mountain more and had to start at the biggest obstacle.
That's why I believe he killed Tywin first.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:04 pm to TigerintheNO
Thought it was a current standing of the kingdoms as of the books, not the shows, sorry...
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:07 pm to CockHolliday
Not sure why they are delaying that, he died prior to the Red Wedding. Hopefully it is worth the wait.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:11 pm to TigerintheNO
I'm hoping they show Balon die sometime before the end of this season. Wasn't he already dead before Joffrey died in the books??
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:19 pm to ladytiger118
I believe Robb Stark was alive when Balon died. It was a Cat POV
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:22 pm to ladytiger118
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Wasn't he already dead before Joffrey died in the books??
He was dead before the Red Wedding.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:26 pm to TigerintheNO
Maybe they are waiting for Asha to get back to Iron Islands and Theon to help Ramsay with Moat Cailin, which looks like it will happen next episode.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 5:32 pm to Josh Fenderman
They need to hurry cause I wanna see some Victorian and Euron!
Posted on 5/22/14 at 5:47 pm to putt23
Euron and his Jack Sparrow look 
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.This post was edited on 5/22/14 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 5/22/14 at 5:48 pm to ladytiger118
yep
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