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Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:32 pm to Ace Midnight
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And I catch crap for not having enough fun at these movies.
I put it in quote marks because I actually didn't have that much fun either, I just know that was the element they were going for.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:33 pm to Ace Midnight
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And I catch crap for not having enough fun at these movies.
Well, answer this for me; what is the more fun movie: Star Wars or the Empire Strikes Back?
Now answer this one; which movie is better?
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:47 pm to OMLandshark
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Well, answer this for me; what is the more fun movie: Star Wars or the Empire Strikes Back? Now answer this one; which movie is better?
I see what you're doing here, and I agree, but that was an organic process from Lucas handing the reins to another director. I do not think it was conscious "Hey, lets make Empire darker" - I just think it was darker, more setbacks for the Rebellion, more screen time for Vader was going to make it look and feel like a darker more depressing movie than the first film.
It just seems so self-aware and conscious in these modern blockbuster franchises, as if it is following a formula. I'd prefer they tell a good story, get some good acting performances and let the funnier/sadder, darker/brighter chips fall where they may.
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Posted on 4/10/15 at 1:03 pm to Ace Midnight
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It just seems so self-aware and conscious in these modern blockbuster franchises, as if it is following a formula. I'd prefer they tell a good story, get some good acting performances and let the funnier/sadder, darker/brighter chips fall where they may.
But it's a formula that really works. The first film sets up the characters and universe, and the second one is the film that really challenges our heroes, and the final one is our heroes coming back together from their fall and ultimately destroying the force that opposes them. Most great trilogies follow this formula.
Plus Ultron, even over Thanos, is the Avengers true arch-enemy. They had to make a movie with him, and make it dark because he's such a dark antagonist. Thanos is just fricking evil and has no other depth to him. Ultron is dark because of how conflicted he really is.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 1:09 pm to OMLandshark
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Plus Ultron
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is the Avengers true arch-enemy
Maybe so - certainly the most interesting, in a way, he is the Avengers' Magneto. The layers of these particular villains are intriguing.
That's why Loki was such a strange choice for the initial installment - it worked (Whedon is a great filmmaker, what can I say?), but it was counterintuitive.
I guess we'll see.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 1:54 pm to Ace Midnight
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I haven't seen any of the individual hero films, except Iron Man and parts of Iron Man 2.
I love marvel but I find some of the individual movies hit and miss.
That being said, do yourself a favor and go watch Winter Solder. That is hardly a "super hero" movie and far more an espionage movie and easily one of the best ones I have seen.
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