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Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:41 am to
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:41 am to
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Freauxzen


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2 Frozen
15 Ratatouille




Yes yes. I HAD THE NAME FIRST!

Also, I really disliked Frozen. It felt like the Crash of Disney Films. Just all manipulated and overproduced with completely uninteresting characters.
Posted by Sellecks Moustache
NC
Member since Jun 2014
5994 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:41 am to
quote:

1 Finding Nemo
16 Cars

8 Tangled
9 Princess and the Frog

5 WALL-E
12 Brave

4 The Incredibles
13 A Bug's Life

6 Up
11 Monster's, Inc.

3 Toy Story 3
14 Winnie the Pooh (2011)

7 Wreck-it-Ralph
10 Big Hero 6

2 Frozen
15 Ratatouille
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150586 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:42 am to
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3 Toy Story 3
14 Winnie the Pooh (2011)

7 Wreck-it-Ralph
10 Big Hero 6

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Skipped voting for the ones I haven't seen. I really need to catch up on the new disney movies.

You're not the first person to have those four movies as unseen. I'd seriously recommend watching all of them immediately. Like honestly, do it this weekend if you can (BH6 came out yesterday, actually). I'd rank them:

TS3
W-I-R
BH6
WtP

But even Winnie the Pooh is really enjoyable (I loved WtP as a kid though, so if you didn't then it might not be as so for you).

But TS3 and WIR are legit awesome movies, irrelevant of "animated" or ""Disney". They're just great movies period.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150586 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:43 am to
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I think it's the film that represents classic film storytelling the most, probably next to Sleeping Beauty and Beauty and the Beast. It isn't the best Kid's film, it isn't the best animated film. It's the best film, so there's a distinction. If that makes sense.

It's also an old styled adventure film, which is awesome, because we don't get many of those. It's all pulpy, and it does that extremely well. And it's far more nuanced than your average Pixar film. Most of it's meaning is under the surface and it hits you where you least expect it.

It makes sense. I just don't agree with it.

But thanks for explaining.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9327 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:44 am to
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14 Winnie the Pooh (2011)


Fight me, IRL


TS3 was too much...It was depressing and a forced conclusion to a series..Pooh Bear and friends beats TS3..Not the TS storyline, just TS3
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37250 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:44 am to
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It makes sense. I just don't agree with it.

But thanks for explaining.


Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:46 am to
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Also, I really disliked Frozen. It felt like the Crash of Disney Films. Just all manipulated and overproduced with completely uninteresting characters.

I will fight you. And I'm not even sure how you think the characters are uninteresting. Elsa is the first Disney villain (well, antagonist would be a better word) to have a real motivation other than "I'm evil". In fact, the fact that she really ISN'T evil makes the movie far more tragic. Most Disney villains are capital-V "VILLAINS!" but Elsa is instead a confused girl who is forced to grow up too fast and flounders under the responsibility, eventually rejecting it. It's a far more interesting story.
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 11:47 am
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
15938 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:46 am to
1 Finding Nemo- Outside of the Toy Story Trilogy, maybe my favorite Pixar movie
16 Cars

8 Tangled
9 Princess and the Frog - my daughter's favorite, and I love the music

5 WALL-E - I like Brave, I love WALL-E
12 Brave

4 The Incredibles
13 A Bug's Life - tough call on this one

6 Up
11 Monster's, Inc. - terrible seeding is terrible. Very tough draw against another great move though

3 Toy Story 3 - nothing tough about this choice
14 Winnie the Pooh (2011)

7 Wreck-it-Ralph
10 Big Hero 6

2 Frozen - despite seeing it for the eleventy millionth time this past weekend I still like it
15 Ratatouille
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150586 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:48 am to
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I will fight you.

I love how we're all a bunch of grown arse men (for the most part) in here talking about fighting each other and making cases and arguing over quality and opinion (which is what message boards are for anyway)....and it's all over Disney animated films.

Just seems so hilarious.
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 11:49 am
Posted by broeho
Atlanta, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
1815 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:52 am to
FWIW, Ratatouille scored higher than Frozen on metacritic (both critic and user score), IMDB, and rotten tomatoes.

Frozen was decent, and it's music made it a huge phenomenon (especially with kids)... but I think Ratatouille is generally regarded as the better movie.
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
12042 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:53 am to
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Elsa is the first Disney villain (well, antagonist would be a better word) to have a real motivation other than "I'm evil".


elsa is the only interesting part of the movie and shes not the main screen time.

her sister and the guy she instantly falls for are terrible. the "twist" feels forced and is immediately dealt with. it seemed like a bunch of forced moments with no real motivation behind a lot of them.
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25850 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:54 am to
quote:

1 Finding Nemo
16 Cars

8 Tangled
9 Princess and the Frog

5 WALL-E
12 Brave

4 The Incredibles
13 A Bug's Life

6 Up
11 Monster's, Inc.

3 Toy Story 3

14 Winnie the Pooh (2011)

7 Wreck-it-Ralph
10 Big Hero 6

2 Frozen
15 Ratatouille
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 11:55 am
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37250 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:55 am to
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I will fight you.


This is a first for us.

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And I'm not even sure how you think the characters are uninteresting. Elsa is the first Disney villain (well, antagonist would be a better word) to have a real motivation other than "I'm evil". In fact, the fact that she really ISN'T evil makes the movie far more tragic. Most Disney villains are capital-V "VILLAINS!" but Elsa is instead a confused girl who is forced to grow up too fast and flounders under the responsibility, eventually rejecting it. It's a far more interesting story.


See, this would be a really big interesting discussion. I think quite a few Disney villains have more than a "I'm Evil!" appeal (some certainly are that simple...I'm looking at you Jafar). And I found Elsa's freakout, her song, all that just completely bland. Maybe that's just me, there wasn't the depth of struggle, just the idea of "We need her to do this" as writers (manipulated). It wasn't natural but almost a TOO CONSTRUCTED Disney Fairy Tale if that makes sense. (And is she really the antagonist or villain after 40 mins.).

I think there's a good story there, it just wasn't told, but obviously I'm in the minority. I think all the other stuff got in the way of Elsa being a fully fleshed out character...living snowmen, trolls, etc..... that I think that's were the manipulated feeling comes from.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37250 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:56 am to
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her sister and the guy she instantly falls for are terrible. the "twist" feels forced and is immediately dealt with. it seemed like a bunch of forced moments with no real motivation behind a lot of them.


See above. We are in agreement.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:59 am to
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Up, Pixar's best film by a long shot


I'd say WALL-E and Toy Story 3 are better.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50371 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:59 am to
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1 Finding Nemo
16 Cars


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8 Tangled
9 Princess and the Frog


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5 WALL-E
12 Brave


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4 The Incredibles
13 A Bug's Life


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6 Up
11 Monster's, Inc.


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3 Toy Story 3
14 Winnie the Pooh (2011)


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7 Wreck-it-Ralph
10 Big Hero 6


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2 Frozen
15 Ratatouille
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84971 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 12:01 pm to
Big Hero 6 was an excellent film, better than WiR IMO. It's issues are the development of the villain and the "group" feeling almost pointless. But the 2 main characters are great and the I really liked the story.
Posted by HeavyCore
Member since Sep 2012
2552 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 12:15 pm to
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LSUTygerFan

whatever you do... don't vote or anything.




Well then, since you're an a-hole, I'm going to vote the opposite of everything you chose to negate your vote.

Finding Nemo
Princess and the Frog
Wall E
The Incredibles
Up
Winnie the Pooh
Wreck It Ralph
Ratatouille
Posted by LSUTygerFan
Homerun Village
Member since Jun 2008
33232 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 12:16 pm to
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Well then, since you're an a-hole, I'm going to vote the opposite of everything you chose to negate your vote.


well at least you're contributing now.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45044 posts
Posted on 2/25/15 at 12:18 pm to
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I'm going to vote the opposite of everything you chose to negate your vote.
quote:

Ratatouille


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