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re: DISNEY Tournament Master Thread
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:41 am to LSUTygerFan
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:41 am to LSUTygerFan
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Freauxzen
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2 Frozen
15 Ratatouille
Yes yes. I HAD THE NAME FIRST!
Also, I really disliked Frozen. It felt like the Crash of Disney Films. Just all manipulated and overproduced with completely uninteresting characters.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:41 am to MrTide33
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1 Finding Nemo
16 Cars
8 Tangled
9 Princess and the Frog
5 WALL-E
12 Brave
4 The Incredibles
13 A Bug's Life
6 Up
11 Monster's, Inc.
3 Toy Story 3
14 Winnie the Pooh (2011)
7 Wreck-it-Ralph
10 Big Hero 6
2 Frozen
15 Ratatouille
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:42 am to Cap Crunch
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3 Toy Story 3
14 Winnie the Pooh (2011)
7 Wreck-it-Ralph
10 Big Hero 6
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Skipped voting for the ones I haven't seen. I really need to catch up on the new disney movies.
You're not the first person to have those four movies as unseen. I'd seriously recommend watching all of them immediately. Like honestly, do it this weekend if you can (BH6 came out yesterday, actually). I'd rank them:
TS3
W-I-R
BH6
WtP
But even Winnie the Pooh is really enjoyable (I loved WtP as a kid though, so if you didn't then it might not be as so for you).
But TS3 and WIR are legit awesome movies, irrelevant of "animated" or ""Disney". They're just great movies period.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:43 am to Freauxzen
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I think it's the film that represents classic film storytelling the most, probably next to Sleeping Beauty and Beauty and the Beast. It isn't the best Kid's film, it isn't the best animated film. It's the best film, so there's a distinction. If that makes sense.
It's also an old styled adventure film, which is awesome, because we don't get many of those. It's all pulpy, and it does that extremely well. And it's far more nuanced than your average Pixar film. Most of it's meaning is under the surface and it hits you where you least expect it.
It makes sense. I just don't agree with it.
But thanks for explaining.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:44 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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14 Winnie the Pooh (2011)
Fight me, IRL
TS3 was too much...It was depressing and a forced conclusion to a series..Pooh Bear and friends beats TS3..Not the TS storyline, just TS3
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:44 am to CocomoLSU
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It makes sense. I just don't agree with it.
But thanks for explaining.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:46 am to Freauxzen
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Also, I really disliked Frozen. It felt like the Crash of Disney Films. Just all manipulated and overproduced with completely uninteresting characters.
I will fight you. And I'm not even sure how you think the characters are uninteresting. Elsa is the first Disney villain (well, antagonist would be a better word) to have a real motivation other than "I'm evil". In fact, the fact that she really ISN'T evil makes the movie far more tragic. Most Disney villains are capital-V "VILLAINS!" but Elsa is instead a confused girl who is forced to grow up too fast and flounders under the responsibility, eventually rejecting it. It's a far more interesting story.
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 11:47 am
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:46 am to MrTide33
1 Finding Nemo- Outside of the Toy Story Trilogy, maybe my favorite Pixar movie
16 Cars
8 Tangled
9 Princess and the Frog - my daughter's favorite, and I love the music
5 WALL-E - I like Brave, I love WALL-E
12 Brave
4 The Incredibles
13 A Bug's Life - tough call on this one
6 Up
11 Monster's, Inc. - terrible seeding is terrible. Very tough draw against another great move though
3 Toy Story 3 - nothing tough about this choice
14 Winnie the Pooh (2011)
7 Wreck-it-Ralph
10 Big Hero 6
2 Frozen - despite seeing it for the eleventy millionth time this past weekend I still like it
15 Ratatouille
16 Cars
8 Tangled
9 Princess and the Frog - my daughter's favorite, and I love the music
5 WALL-E - I like Brave, I love WALL-E
12 Brave
4 The Incredibles
13 A Bug's Life - tough call on this one
6 Up
11 Monster's, Inc. - terrible seeding is terrible. Very tough draw against another great move though
3 Toy Story 3 - nothing tough about this choice
14 Winnie the Pooh (2011)
7 Wreck-it-Ralph
10 Big Hero 6
2 Frozen - despite seeing it for the eleventy millionth time this past weekend I still like it
15 Ratatouille
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:48 am to Baloo
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I will fight you.
I love how we're all a bunch of grown arse men (for the most part) in here talking about fighting each other and making cases and arguing over quality and opinion (which is what message boards are for anyway)....and it's all over Disney animated films.
Just seems so hilarious.
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 11:49 am
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:52 am to rockchlkjayhku11
FWIW, Ratatouille scored higher than Frozen on metacritic (both critic and user score), IMDB, and rotten tomatoes.
Frozen was decent, and it's music made it a huge phenomenon (especially with kids)... but I think Ratatouille is generally regarded as the better movie.
Frozen was decent, and it's music made it a huge phenomenon (especially with kids)... but I think Ratatouille is generally regarded as the better movie.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:53 am to Baloo
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Elsa is the first Disney villain (well, antagonist would be a better word) to have a real motivation other than "I'm evil".
elsa is the only interesting part of the movie and shes not the main screen time.
her sister and the guy she instantly falls for are terrible. the "twist" feels forced and is immediately dealt with. it seemed like a bunch of forced moments with no real motivation behind a lot of them.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:54 am to MrTide33
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1 Finding Nemo
16 Cars
8 Tangled
9 Princess and the Frog
5 WALL-E
12 Brave
4 The Incredibles
13 A Bug's Life
6 Up
11 Monster's, Inc.
3 Toy Story 3
14 Winnie the Pooh (2011)
7 Wreck-it-Ralph
10 Big Hero 6
2 Frozen
15 Ratatouille
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 11:55 am
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:55 am to Baloo
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I will fight you.
This is a first for us.
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And I'm not even sure how you think the characters are uninteresting. Elsa is the first Disney villain (well, antagonist would be a better word) to have a real motivation other than "I'm evil". In fact, the fact that she really ISN'T evil makes the movie far more tragic. Most Disney villains are capital-V "VILLAINS!" but Elsa is instead a confused girl who is forced to grow up too fast and flounders under the responsibility, eventually rejecting it. It's a far more interesting story.
See, this would be a really big interesting discussion. I think quite a few Disney villains have more than a "I'm Evil!" appeal (some certainly are that simple...I'm looking at you Jafar). And I found Elsa's freakout, her song, all that just completely bland. Maybe that's just me, there wasn't the depth of struggle, just the idea of "We need her to do this" as writers (manipulated). It wasn't natural but almost a TOO CONSTRUCTED Disney Fairy Tale if that makes sense. (And is she really the antagonist or villain after 40 mins.).
I think there's a good story there, it just wasn't told, but obviously I'm in the minority. I think all the other stuff got in the way of Elsa being a fully fleshed out character...living snowmen, trolls, etc..... that I think that's were the manipulated feeling comes from.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:56 am to BlacknGold
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her sister and the guy she instantly falls for are terrible. the "twist" feels forced and is immediately dealt with. it seemed like a bunch of forced moments with no real motivation behind a lot of them.
See above. We are in agreement.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:59 am to Freauxzen
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Up, Pixar's best film by a long shot
I'd say WALL-E and Toy Story 3 are better.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 11:59 am to MrTide33
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1 Finding Nemo
16 Cars
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8 Tangled
9 Princess and the Frog
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5 WALL-E
12 Brave
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4 The Incredibles
13 A Bug's Life
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6 Up
11 Monster's, Inc.
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3 Toy Story 3
14 Winnie the Pooh (2011)
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7 Wreck-it-Ralph
10 Big Hero 6
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2 Frozen
15 Ratatouille
Posted on 2/25/15 at 12:01 pm to CocomoLSU
Big Hero 6 was an excellent film, better than WiR IMO. It's issues are the development of the villain and the "group" feeling almost pointless. But the 2 main characters are great and the I really liked the story.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 12:15 pm to LSUTygerFan
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LSUTygerFan
whatever you do... don't vote or anything.
Well then, since you're an a-hole, I'm going to vote the opposite of everything you chose to negate your vote.
Finding Nemo
Princess and the Frog
Wall E
The Incredibles
Up
Winnie the Pooh
Wreck It Ralph
Ratatouille
Posted on 2/25/15 at 12:16 pm to HeavyCore
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Well then, since you're an a-hole, I'm going to vote the opposite of everything you chose to negate your vote.
well at least you're contributing now.
Posted on 2/25/15 at 12:18 pm to HeavyCore
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I'm going to vote the opposite of everything you chose to negate your vote.
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Ratatouille
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