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re: DB Cooper on History

Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:14 pm to
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 2:14 pm to
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I am in the Richard McCoy camp. The guy pulled off a somewhat failed, but similar heist just a short time after DB Cooper.
But the FBI eliminated him as well as Rackstraw. I wish we'd have gotten Tina's opinion of McCoy, but for whatever reason, the FBI doesn't think it was him.

The tranny story only proves that trannies are, in fact, nuts.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 7:18 pm to
Who cares if the fbi eliminated him? I'm 3/4 through and a lot of this is refamiliarizing myself with things, but they're operating under their profile strictly which may be incredibly flawed especially the part that the hijacker had to have been an inside man to know he could jump from the aft stairs of a 727.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 7:21 pm to
The rubber band shite was stupid as well For starters because it relies on the testimony of a small child but also notice they didn't show the money in the condition it was found

I don't know where this is going but it's clear they're focused on making the evidence fit a suspect rather than the antithesis
This post was edited on 7/12/16 at 7:23 pm
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 7:24 pm to
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The tranny story only proves that trannies are, in fact, nuts.


for sure
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 7:56 pm to
Not sketchy. Finding db cooper's money is probably a defining moment for him and his son. To take that from them, the news won't go over well
Posted by ULSU
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 8:02 pm to
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Rackstraw is still a great story even if he's not Cooper.


I like how vague that dude is just to frick with people


They had hundreds of fingerprints from the plane. If if was Rackstraw (or any of the others the FBI had interviewed), he would have been in jail when they arrested him for the check fraud. So dumb to waste all this energy on him. Good for the FBI for telling these kooks they have bigger fish to fry.

This means it was probably the tranny.
This post was edited on 7/12/16 at 8:05 pm
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 8:25 pm to
I cannot shake the father who found the money. He looks and sounds like someone who was busted. Who promised him expired reward money. I think these guys may be on to something, but are too stupid to realize it.
Posted by LSUlefty
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 8:29 pm to
Did you guys watch the Brad Meltzer Decoded about Cooper?
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 8:32 pm to
All I know now is they're getting off the rails, but the interview with the family who found the money raised the hair on my arm

The son said dangle money. The fbi didn't do that. You didn't bring that money in, and you'd be obstructing a federal investigation. Could be cooper told them there was a reward and he could help them out not knowing it was expired. If cooper is a bad motherfricker, they'd keep quiet, especially these rural anti government hippy motherfrickers.

Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 8:36 pm to
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but they're operating under their profile strictly which may be incredibly flawed especially the part that the hijacker had to have been an inside man to know he could jump from the aft stairs of a 727.
We don't know any of this. As stated in the film, the FBI is not at liberty to divulge any evidence or analysis of evidence to anyone other than authorized investigators.

They're not a bunch of idiots. For reasons you and I will never know, they eliminated both of those subjects long ago.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 9:53 pm to
The crime was less than 10 years after Oswald, for rackshaw, I could see them being directed to look at other suspect...one without a military background

I'm halfway done and I think these guys stumbled onto something with the finding of the cash. Should've asked "do you know db cooper?"

They got lost in rackshaw. He's a viable suspect for sure, but not the most interesting
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 10:00 pm to
By the way, I would never dismiss the idea that the FBI knew who he was and when they brought a former military suspect they were told to look elsewhere. I'm not a conspiracy guy but the FBI under Hoover and the decade following his death had a culture that wasn't on the up and up
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 10:10 pm to
Finished, 99% of their evidence sucks

The opportunity, capability and intent is there. He's a suspicious guy. Certainly has a history of theatrics. Timeline of dismissal fits. He's intelligent (the money was never spent)

It seems like the discovery of the money, THE most interesting part is very disconnected from the suspect though

And their interviews were amateur

The best theory is that he didn't survive the jump.
This post was edited on 7/12/16 at 10:11 pm
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 10:12 pm to
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By the way, I would never dismiss the idea that the FBI knew who he was and when they brought a former military suspect they were told to look elsewhere. I'm not a conspiracy guy but the FBI under Hoover and the decade following his death had a culture that wasn't on the up and up
None of that gives them any reason not to pursue all suspects diligently. This case is a huge thorn in their asses, being the only unsolved skyjacking in history.

And the guy who found the money is way too much of a dumbass to be part of a conspiracy.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 10:24 pm to
I'm not suggesting that he is part of any conspiracy. I'm suggesting he was distressed from the story...because dots connected in his brain and he knew his hole in one, was bullshite. But you still ask the question, do you know who db cooper is? Because he was defensive for a reason

Again, my #1 is he didn't make it, #2 is that the FBI already greased him. This guy is a top 10 suspect on the surface though

It's also likely someone brought them the guy's name and was dismissed as another crazy tipster. I think the zodiac is the holy grail though, but at least cooper can still be solved. That money is somewhere, remains or remains of his parachute
Posted by RegisteredPharmacist
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 10:38 pm to
This was interesting. I wish I knew who it was so bad. Ha.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 10:42 pm to
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Again, my #1 is he didn't make it
I think the location of the money they found suggests that he did make it. As they said, there is no natural way for that money to have made it from the drop site to where it was found. Plus, they never found any trace of him, the chute or the money.
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#2 is that the FBI already greased him
I think the witnesses have looked at pictures of McCoy and dismissed him, like Tina did with Rackstraw. The FBI would know if it was him and they would have announced it years ago.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 10:55 pm to
Duress moreso than time is what makes witness identification hard, but 45 years isn't anything to sneeze at. If cooper made it, and it's very possible, there's no way to clean that money, it's never popped. So the motive is interesting which is why rackshaw isn't a bad suspect, they just don't have that much, and a lot of what they call evidence is nonsense.

until the FBI gives reason for their disinterest in the suspects, I don't really value their opinion that much. Look at Orlando, look at JFK, they're really good at looking stupid despite no wrong doing and such a motive could be the reason theyve kept it ongoing for so long.

Unlike the zodiac, this one is solvable, all it takes is one bill that could very possibly still be out there
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 7/12/16 at 11:06 pm to
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Duress moreso than time is what makes witness identification hard, but 45 years isn't anything to sneeze at
Witnesses likely saw pictures of many suspects many years ago, and Rackstraw was investigated in 1978-79.
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there's no way to clean that money
I don't think you can know that for sure.
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until the FBI gives reason for their disinterest in the suspects, I don't really value their opinion that much.
Well, they aren't going to, and I doubt it's just an opinion.
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Look at Orlando, look at JFK, they're really good at looking stupid despite no wrong doing and such a motive could be the reason theyve kept it ongoing for so long.

I have no idea what this means.
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/13/16 at 1:38 am to
This was 1971. How do we know if the money was traceable?

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