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re: Dakota Johnson's Madame Web press tour is one for the books. 17% on RT

Posted on 2/16/24 at 10:41 am to
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 2/16/24 at 10:41 am to
Is it considered public indecency if nobody was in the theater to see it?
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 2/16/24 at 10:44 am to
Some of my co-workers went to see it last night and they don't strike me as critically inclined. They all hated it and said it was one of the worst movies they had ever seen.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:40 am to
It's official. Madame Web tanks bigly.

"Paramount's Bob Marley: One Love delivered a huge $50 million-plus domestic opening over the six-day Valentine's Day-Presidents Day corridor, enough to crush Madame Web‘s $25.8 million start, a record worst for Sony's superhero adventures."

Hollylwood Reporter



Madame Web needs to make a minimum of *$200 million worldwide to break even. Despite a generous 5-day opening "weekend", it's still not drawing anywhere near the numbers.


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This post was edited on 2/19/24 at 1:15 pm
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 2/18/24 at 11:44 am to
Missing from the story... did he have a Dune 2 popcorn bucket?
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 10:22 am to
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Inside Sony’s ‘Madame Web’ Collapse: Forget About a New Franchise

The trailer buzz was worrisome, advance ticket sales anemic. Then last week, the critic reviews for Madame Web were posted, and they stung deepest of all — Sony’s Spider-Man spin-off received the lowest average Rotten Tomatoes score (13 percent) of any major superhero film in nearly a decade.

“On Wednesday night, you could actually watch advance purchase sales declining in real time as buyers were refunding their tickets,” marvels a major theatrical chain insider. “It really says something when you’d rather have Shazam! 2 numbers.”


quote:

Like DC and the once unstoppable Marvel, Sony is now finding itself in under the gun to revaluate how it makes comic book movies.

Sony’s previous Spider-Man universe movie — 2022’s Morbius — was a critical bust and much-maligned by fanboys online, but at least it managed to earn $170 million worldwide. There’s no such hope for Madame Web. Plus, the feature’s collapse doesn’t just impact this film, but a new potential franchise led by star Dakota Johnson that Sony had hoped to spin out (spoiler alert: her character is connected to Peter Parker, whose birth is documented in the movie).



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This post was edited on 2/19/24 at 10:38 am
Posted by Civildawg
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 10:24 am to
I mean what did Sony expect? They hired literally the worst writers in Hollywood that have shown they create terrible movies and still hired them. How are the execs this dumb?
Posted by Jay Are
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 10:38 am to
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Madame Web needs to make a minimum of $260 million worldwide to break even.


Based on what? It's $80 million budget plus marketing?

Sony's first look streaming deal with netflix subsidizes much of their movie budgets. Sony is also famous for how much money it makes negotiating the foreign TV rights for its movies.

Whenever you guys post these nonsense numbers, you're taking into account a reported budget, an assumption of what marketing cost, and an assumption of what percentage the studio is getting from the theater share. The latter two numbers are always assumptions, because studios don't report them.

The nonsense numbers also never take into account foreign distribution deals, tv rights, streaming roghts, pvod numbers, or any of the other myriad ways studios continue to make money from these films.


Madame web is not a hit, and it did not do well. It is unlikely that it needs to make $260 million minimum to break even.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 1:13 pm to
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Madame web is not a hit, and it did not do well. It is unlikely that it needs to make $260 million minimum to break even.


Didn't mean to trigger you, but let's reset that number to just $200 million, ok? That's what ScreenRant uses as a reasonable target.

"If Madame Web is only able to gross $200 million in total, it could be seen as a box office failure since that's the break even point. While the threshold for Madame Web to turn a profit may be lower than some other movies in the franchise, it would still need to earn more than $200 million to be universally recognized as a success.

As it stands, Madame Web's box office projections are record-breaking, and not in a good way. The movie's opening weekend is set to be a massive box office disappointment, only earning $25-$35 million. This could make Madame Web the lowest earning domestic opening for a *Sony Spider-Man movie ever. The movie is also predicted to end its run having only earned $56-$101 million, which could make it one of the biggest box office flops of 2024. If these projections are correct, Madame Web would replace Morbius as the SSU's biggest commercial failure in recent years."




ScreenRant


*Seems a stretch to call this 'Spider-Man' related, but if that's what Sony claims, so be it.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:52 am to
Update…

quote:

We also have an update on the film’s budget, which Sony had originally reported as being $80 million. THR says it actually took $100 million to produce “Madame Web.”


So it appears that 260 million box office to break even was actually the low end after all.



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Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
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Posted on 2/22/24 at 3:54 pm to
Posted by kballa6
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
4081 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:47 pm to
For some reason, the wife and I watched this Sunday night, and we both wish we hadn't. It's Catwoman bad, but with 4 different Halle Berry's.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63508 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:54 pm to
Well, here’s a guy who’s not sure of what the SPUMM means. I don’t keep up with that crap.
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