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BluegrassBelle
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- A beautiful, naked woman being ravished by four of the dwarves who serve the house.


This one has me stumped as well. I wonder if it's metaphorical in the four main Houses of Westeros devouring Westeros.

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- A cloth dragon sways on poles amidst a cheering crowd.



Which dragon though? A Targaryen or a Blackfyre?

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- A great stone beast takes wing from a smoking tower, breathing shadows.


I tend to think this is Dragonstone as well given the rumors of that the stone dragons can be "awakened".

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- A corpse standing at the prow of a ship with bright eyes and grey smiling lips.


Could this also be Victarion?


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- A corpse standing at the prow of a ship with bright eyes and grey smiling lips.



Could this also be Victarion?




I was thinking him, as well


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A great stone beast takes wing from a smoking tower, breathing shadows.


I feel confident this has to do with Jon being awakened as a "dragon"/TPTWP/Azor Azai

- Maybe the smoking tower is just a funeral pyre for Jon because with all the Others stuff going on the wildings tend to burn the bodies of the dead
- The "stone" beast has to do with sacrificing Shireen Baratheon (king/queens blood) in the pyre because she has the greyscale that the wildings fear
- the breathing shadows could either have to do with Melisandre being sacrificed similar to Mirri Maz Durr/Dany which gives the witch part of blood magic like last time or they just sacrifice shireen and Jon "breathes shadow" by using shadow magic via Mel

something along those lines...

ETA:
Another one I thought about that could have several interpretations was maybe the stone beast that takes wing from a smoking tower is Jon Connington.

The breathing shadows is confusing though, and could have several meanings in the context:
- Jon Connington "takes wing" by sending out ravens calling for bannermen/supporters; the breathing shadows refers to the fact that while he thinks he's calling them for Rhaegars son, it is really a lie and he is calling them for an imposter (hopefully a Blackfyre)...in this case I think the "smoking tower" may not be literally a building but an analogy for the concept that the Aegon lie is "going up in smoke" or that its a distraction...i feel like smoking tower is a common analogy for something else though I just can't think of it.

- Jon Connington "takes wing" by being flung out of the smoking tower after learning the secret that Aegon is not really a Targaryen but instead a Blackfyre (or other imposter), the breathing shadows could mean something along the lines of realizing the truth and he was attempting to get the word out about the lie...I'm less confident about this one.

Those were the only two theories along those lines I could come up with
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Who is blue eyed?


Stannis is blue eyed.


I also think the corpse on the ship might be Theon or Euron. I don't think it's Victarion.


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This one has me stumped as well. I wonder if it's metaphorical in the four main Houses of Westeros devouring Westeros.


Lannister, Stark, Baratheon, Greyjoy

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Which dragon though? A Targaryen or a Blackfyre?


Aegon's "return" to King's Landing

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I tend to think this is Dragonstone as well given the rumors of that the stone dragons can be "awakened".


Jon Snow awoken as a Targaryen/Azor Azhai



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Lannister, Stark, Baratheon, Greyjoy


I was thinking moreso Lannister, Stark, Baratheon, and Targaryen.


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quote: - A beautiful, naked woman being ravished by four of the dwarves who serve the house.


Or maybe:

Stannis, Tommen, Aegon, and Dany

Eta: or maybe it was still Joff at that time, not yet T.

No. Scratch that edit. If this was a vision further in the future, it could represent those claiming to "serve the realm" actually raping her.
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I think the blue eyed king is Stanis rising as an Other


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...or it could be The Great UnOther, Jon Snow, his blade red w Nissa's blood...

Just hit me- the four dwarves representing Houses or Kings seems hokey. How about the four players:

Varys, Illyrio, LF and Tyrion.

-Dany would have little knowledge of them or their roles.
?
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A beautiful, naked woman being ravished by four of the dwarves who serve the house.


Could this be Cersei Lannister? Maybe Tyrion comes back for revenge?


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Whoever it is is an other I'm pretty confident in that


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Whoever it is is an other I'm pretty confident in that

The sword is glowing red though. I can't fit that in there.

nevermind. Not sure why I thought glowing.
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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
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A beautiful, naked woman being ravished by four of the dwarves who serve the house.


I was thinking it was Dany being ravished, either in Westeros or Essos by her court or those who purport to serve her.

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A great stone beast takes wing from a smoking tower, breathing shadows.


What if this is Tyrion, consumed with Greyscale...? or Shireen is somehow secretly a badass...?


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auyushu
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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
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I think the blue eyed king is Stanis rising as an Other



He's a blue eyed guy with a red sword who had all his shadows taken by Mel, he really doesn't have to become and Other to fit that particular prophecy, though it would be an interesting twist for his storyline.


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auyushu
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Could this be Cersei Lannister? Maybe Tyrion comes back for revenge?


Given the time frame of the vision, it's more likely just a symbol of the four Kings vying for the throne and raping and pillaging Westeros in the process.

The red wedding was one of the visions she saw right after.

All of the room visions seem to either be visions of the past, present, or immediate future. And the visions she got while in the big heart room from the undying themselves seem to all be future visions.


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Given the time frame of the vision, it's more likely just a symbol of the four Kings vying for the throne and raping and pillaging Westeros in the process.


True, I didn't think about the timing of it.


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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
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woman being ravaged


I thought it was four rats wearing crowns, but either way the woman is westeros and the four creatures represent the remaining kings in the war of kings.

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blue eyed king that casts no shadow


Pretty sure this is stannis. He has blue eyes and the shadow reference is about the shadow babies that melissandre gives birth to.

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the corpse with the grey smile.


Definitely a greyjoy, either victarion or theon.


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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
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I thought it was four rats wearing crowns, but either way the woman is westeros and the four creatures represent the remaining kings in the war of kings.



Yeah, they at least have rat heads or mouths anyway, as one is biting at the woman's breast with his rat teeth, or something of that nature.


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Definitely a greyjoy, either victarion or theon.



It could equally be Connington as well, with the greyscale making him a surefire corpse sooner or later. Though the boat makes the greyjoys most likely.
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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
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the corpse with the grey smile.




Definitely a greyjoy, either victarion or theon.



Don't forget Euron and his smiling eye.


Barney Rubble
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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
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the corpse with the grey smile.




Definitely a greyjoy, either victarion or theon.


i was thinking once he blows the horn he becomes a corpse. or something along those lines. since everyone dies that blows it.


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