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Christopher McCandless: OG Hipster T/F?

Posted on 4/5/16 at 7:22 pm
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 4/5/16 at 7:22 pm
Browsing channels in the hotel room and came across Into the Wild. Given the explosion of hipsters and the weirdpost-hippy anti-culture culture of the last 5-6 years, was McCandless the OG Hipster? I dislike giving him that much credit but I just feel if he were alive...



That this would be him.

Granted, he had more balls than most, but the arrogance in the book is kind of outstanding in light of his choices. Not a fan of his, but just a thought. I mean it's essentially a focus on not growing up, which was kind of the point for him.
This post was edited on 4/5/16 at 7:23 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/5/16 at 7:27 pm to
you know the "do it, ****!" meme?

he's basically that sort of hipster
Posted by danman6336
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Posted on 4/5/16 at 7:30 pm to
brah, if Thoreau was alive today he would have would have been like the hippest dude ever
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 4/5/16 at 7:32 pm to
Either that's a funny Camera angle or dude's got some big arse feet.

I thought I was disproportionate being 5'11" with size 14.



I totally didn't like the dude in the movie.
Posted by PowerTool
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Posted on 4/5/16 at 7:43 pm to
No. Hipsters sit in coffee shops and bars pretending to be like McCandless while living comfortably on trust funds (or working in the service industry and acting as if they'll never run out of cash).

Without having read the book, I have to think McCandless had legitimate mental issues. It takes a little more than idealistic naivety to blow off every single person who cares about you and not give a frick.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
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Posted on 4/5/16 at 7:44 pm to
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brah, if Thoreau was alive today he would have would have been like the hippest dude ever




Probably. I've always loved Poe's take on Transcendentalists - Frogpondians.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 4/5/16 at 7:45 pm to
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No. Hipsters sit in coffee shops and bars pretending to be like McCandless while living comfortably on trust funds (or working in the service industry and acting as if they'll never run out of cash).

Without having read the book, I have to think McCandless had legitimate mental issues. It takes a little more than idealistic naivety to blow off every single person who cares about you and not give a frick.


All fair points.
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 4/5/16 at 7:45 pm to
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Poe


OG emo
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
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Posted on 4/5/16 at 7:46 pm to
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OG emo



Word, but he hated him some Transcendalists.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
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Posted on 4/5/16 at 7:48 pm to
And now I've left this damn movie on....
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 4/5/16 at 8:02 pm to
quote:

brah, if Thoreau was alive today he would have would have been like the hippest dude eve


He actually fits the modern definition more than McCandless...at least McCandless was a real bum who went to backwoods of Alaska.

On Walden Pond, Thoreau lived only a mile away from Ralph Waldo Emerson's home in Concord and would often have dinner with him and women over...despite professing to be a hermit.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/5/16 at 8:23 pm to
No, McCandless was one of the last vestiges of people who went out to "find themselves" as was popular in the 60's, 70's and 80's. You would still find these people in the 90's but they were finding the big money of the tech boom too hard to pass up. When I moved here, there were still quite a few people like this, they don't really exist in large numbers anymore. They didn't really fit into the hipster category.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37263 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

No, McCandless was one of the last vestiges of people who went out to "find themselves" as was popular in the 60's, 70's and 80's. You would still find these people in the 90's but they were finding the big money of the tech boom too hard to pass up. When I moved here, there were still quite a few people like this, they don't really exist in large numbers anymore. They didn't really fit into the hipster category.



And you probably know better than the rest of us, just by being in Alaska. But McCandless still had an approach, even in the book, that growing up and being responsible wasn't important...and that strikes me as different from the "find themselves," group. Again, this is just from the book and movie.

He doesn't strike me as a tramp, but as a wannabe tramp - hence the hipster comparison. But maybe I'm reading him wrong.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 4/5/16 at 10:02 pm to
McCandless was wreckless to the point that it seems to me that he was basically looking for a way to die without directly killing himself.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260351 posts
Posted on 4/5/16 at 10:06 pm to
quote:



And you probably know better than the rest of us, just by being in Alaska. But McCandless still had an approach, even in the book, that growing up and being responsible wasn't important...and that strikes me as different from the "find themselves," group. Again, this is just from the book and movie.


The whole "find yourself" phase was an attempt to avoid the normalcy of American adulthood. The work/life routine and norms people hold dear.

It was an attempt to find something spiritual, or deeply philosophical that could save them from the life their parents had.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 4/5/16 at 11:10 pm to
McCandless was just another hippy from some rich family. Gavin McInnes is kind of thought of as the original hipster as we know today. He pretty much invented the whole look and attitude, he even co-founded VICE Magazine. Which is pretty ironic now considering he the total antithesis of everything present hipsters are like politically and socially.

LINK
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 12:59 pm to
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Gavin McInnes is kind of thought of as the original hipster as we know today. He pretty much invented the whole look and attitude, he even co-founded VICE Magazine


I don't see that at all. Gavin seems way more punk than hipster.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 1:22 pm to
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McCandless was wreckless to the point that it seems to me that he was basically looking for a way to die without directly killing himself.

I read some good articles recently into his death, pretty in depth, stating that he likely died through an understandable error, that the plant he ate that poisoned him may have been commonly known to be edible. That some factor in his physiology or condition caused the fatal reaction. In other words, he wasn't a dumbass.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 1:28 pm to
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That some factor in his physiology or condition caused the fatal reaction.
Malnutrition.

From what I understand of the story, he wanted to be an explorer so he threw away the map and set off without knowing shite about shite. Turns out he was extremely ill prepared for such a task and died in about three months.

Sounds like a dumbass move to me.
This post was edited on 4/7/16 at 1:34 pm
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 1:32 pm to
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That some factor in his physiology or condition caused the fatal reaction.


Maybe the fact that he had withered down to 66 pounds?
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