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Casino (1995), History versus Hollywood
Posted on 9/19/16 at 7:58 am
Posted on 9/19/16 at 7:58 am
If you have 90 mins to kill, American Justice did a show called "Vegas and the Mob". They cover all the real life characters in the movie Casino. I found the show on DailyMotion. It's broken down into 9 ten minute segments.
Pretty neat to see the differences between Hollywood and real life.
Head to DailyMotion (or download the app)
Search : "BIO: Vegas and the Mob (1of9)"
Enjoy.
ETA:
LINK
Pretty neat to see the differences between Hollywood and real life.
Head to DailyMotion (or download the app)
Search : "BIO: Vegas and the Mob (1of9)"
Enjoy.
ETA:
LINK
This post was edited on 9/19/16 at 10:15 am
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 8:35 am to crazycubes
What are some of the differences?
Posted on 9/19/16 at 9:19 am to ManBearTiger
Robert De Niro character real name was Frank Rosenthal.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:00 am to lsufan1971
The movie uses quite a bit from real life. Nicki walking out of court with cameras. That really happened to the real mobster.
I can't remember if Nicki IRL gets whacked in the desert.
I can't remember if Nicki IRL gets whacked in the desert.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:13 am to LSU alum wannabe
One difference I noticed was that Ace Rothstein (Robert De Niro) and Phillip Green (Kevin Pollak) seemed to have a working relationship in the movie. In real life, Lefty Rosenthal and Allen Glick did not get along at all.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:28 am to LSU alum wannabe
I think in real life he was whacked in cornfields in Indiana.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 10:34 am to Thurber
quote:
I think in real life he was whacked in cornfields in Indiana.
he was in the movie too
Posted on 9/19/16 at 11:21 am to crazycubes
Watch Goodfellas and then read the book Wiseguy by Henry Hill. Extremely close to the point where a lot of dialogue for the movie is directly quoting the words in the book.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 12:39 pm to Dire Wolf
quote:
he was in the movie too
The place of death is not 100% confirmed. The best evidence is that they were called to a meeting somewhere. Some reports it was a hunting lodge. Another was to a basement somewhere in Illinois. The Illinois basement theory is eerily similar to how Henry Hill described the death of Pesci's character (which was a composite, but mainly Thomas DiSimone). Spilotro was already made, of course, before he even went to Vegas, but supposedly they were going to make his brother Michael into the Chicago Outfit, and killed them both upon arrival.
This is similar to Hill's version of DiSimone's death after being lured to a location where he was supposed to be inducted in the Lucchese family.
The disposal area was, as typical for Mafia hits in the Midwest or West, in a remote location.
This post was edited on 9/19/16 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 9/19/16 at 12:46 pm to Ace Midnight
What was the IRL casino that Sam/Ace ran?
Posted on 9/19/16 at 12:47 pm to crazycubes
The real Frank Rosenthal Show LINK
Posted on 9/19/16 at 12:49 pm to LSU alum wannabe
quote:
What was the IRL casino that Sam/Ace ran?
It was a complex of 3 (I think), but the main one was the Megacasino Stardust.
ETA: Yeah, the Stardust was the primary property, but Argent also owned the Fremont, the Hacienda and the casino portion of the Marina - so 4 casinos/3 hotels on 4 properties. Lefty was the de facto CEO for all of those on behalf of Allen Glick (legally) and the Chicago Outfit (no shite).
This post was edited on 9/19/16 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 9/19/16 at 12:51 pm to Ace Midnight
the book's a great read ...
Posted on 9/19/16 at 12:57 pm to tiderider
When did Steve Wynn become a player? And how did he not end up killed?
Seems he was around before the whole fed shutdown and business takeover that the end of Casino talks about.
Had to be a fine line he was walking. Especially with the number of people getting killed? If the movie isn't expanding too much.
Seems he was around before the whole fed shutdown and business takeover that the end of Casino talks about.
Had to be a fine line he was walking. Especially with the number of people getting killed? If the movie isn't expanding too much.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 12:58 pm to Ace Midnight
Frank and Geri's daughter all grown up
She runs a facilities management company, having learned the lesson her father never did: Take the food and beverage concession and keep a low profile.
She runs a facilities management company, having learned the lesson her father never did: Take the food and beverage concession and keep a low profile.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 1:00 pm to Jim Rockford
quote:
The real Frank Rosenthal Show LINK
Damned YouTube is not working for me at work.
This is just like being home and Casino happens to be on or of course Goodfellas.
If you frickers wanna talk mob movies and mob shite, I'm here til 7.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 1:20 pm to LSU alum wannabe
Stardust
Posted on 9/19/16 at 1:53 pm to crazycubes
Did it touch on the relationship between the Mormon Church bankers who helped the mob launder a TON of dough.
I know they showed one of the Mormons who worked for them getting killed in Coast Rica
I know they showed one of the Mormons who worked for them getting killed in Coast Rica
Posted on 9/19/16 at 2:23 pm to RD Dawg
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Mormon Church
Howard Hughes is at least partially responsible for this. By the time he got to Vegas, he was convinced he could only trust Mormons. That was in the 1960s.
quote:
I know they showed one of the Mormons who worked for them getting killed in Coast Rica
The real person is George Vandermark - I'm not 100% certain he was Mormon (although the character was in the film). Vandermark was the Slots manager and one of the best cheats in casino history, by reputation. He was also last seen in Phoenix, not Central America (although reports conflict on how/where/if he was killed - some reports even suggest he might have faked his own death/survived the ordeal) - here's the kicker they only touched on in the film - the authorities estimate that $7 million was skimmed, but only about $4 million made it to the Outfit. Vandermark may have kept up to $3 million himself, although some of that may have gone to silence others who knew he was skimming the skim, like "his guys" in the count room.
This post was edited on 9/19/16 at 2:24 pm
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