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re: Breaking Bad Hypothetical ***SPOILERS***
Posted on 10/1/14 at 10:22 am to okietiger
Posted on 10/1/14 at 10:22 am to okietiger
What if Walt would have turned Jesse's GF on her side instead of watching her die? Jesse likely dies of OD eventually and Walt keeps everything.
Plus planes don't fall out of the sky.
Plus planes don't fall out of the sky.
This post was edited on 10/1/14 at 10:59 am
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 10:26 am to Putty
Hank? You mean Walt.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 10:58 am to lsuguy84
Yeah. Derp.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 11:00 am to okietiger
He would have been kidnapped like Jesse was.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 11:40 am to okietiger
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What would have happened if Walt had decided to sell his share of the 1000 gallons methylamine for $5 million? Obviously it was the right move but Walt's ego and bad-blood for Gray Matter got in the way.
He would have still been arrested or killed. That lawyer would have still been caught putting cash in the safety deposit boxes (right?) so the 10 guys in jail would have either squealed or needed to be dealt with (so the Mike confrontation would have still happened)
Posted on 10/1/14 at 11:44 am to okietiger
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I am a lot more sympathetic for Skylar.
frick that bitch. I knew her from the get-go she was a bitch when she gave Walt a dry handy for his birthday in Season 1. What kind of bitch does that?!
Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:02 pm to USMCTiger03
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Does anyone disagree that but for the cancer, Walt would have probably lived his life just as before and died a mostly unhappy and unfulfilled life of relative poverty and dead end career?
See, that's the only issue I have with the show and the only semblance of a plot hole I can find -- if Heisenberg is this sort of alter personality fueled by ego and perceived slights, where was it before when he was a lowly chemistry teacher and a put-upon husband who feels like the world has left him far behind?
I know we can say that the cancer diagnosis changed him and "desperate times call for desperate measures," but it just feels like something that could've been explored more. It's sort of like framing a show around a guy who is a beta weakling follower who morphs into a courageous leader in no time.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:08 pm to Feral
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I know we can say that the cancer diagnosis changed him and "desperate times call for desperate measures," but it just feels like something that could've been explored more.
I always felt that was enough explanation. Then again, I've been in a desperate times call for desperate measure situation so maybe I understand a little better.
I've always been more interested in, as was mentioned earlier, what would have happened if Hank never found the book? How far would Walt have gone? Where would his next mistake that got him caught take place? Would he have eventually said frick it, I'm really done? Would he have finally said frick it, I'm moving on from my family who hates me?
Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:11 pm to TigerFanatic99
Yeah, I always that it was explained well enough. In his mind, the cancer freed him from having to face the ultimate consequences of his actions and then later, as he started "winning", he gained a perverse confidence that he lacked before it all began.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:23 pm to USMCTiger03
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Walt would have probably lived his life just as before and died a mostly unhappy and unfulfilled life of relative poverty and dead end career?
Didn't it pretty much like that for him anyway?
Posted on 10/1/14 at 12:26 pm to Feral
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if Heisenberg is this sort of alter personality fueled by ego and perceived slights, where was it before when he was a lowly chemistry teacher and a put-upon husband who feels like the world has left him far behind?
It wasn't there because he didn't know there was anything he could do that he could be egotistical about.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 3:08 pm to Jake88
Wouldn't the DEA still have caught up to the lawyer making the "legacy" deposits for Mike? Whether Walt was in or out this guy was still gonna rat and everyone would've been fricked. I don't remember the sequence of events that led Walt to finding out that the DEA had him and he was going to talk.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 12:04 pm to okietiger
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What would have happened if Walt had decided to sell his share of the 1000 gallons methylamine for $5 million? Obviously it was the right move but Walt's ego and bad-blood for Gray Matter got in the way.
But let's say he made the right call and accepted the $5 million. How would everything have played out afterwards in your opinion?
I just finished this show last night. Really enjoyed it. I think that it would have probably ended the same either way, because in his last meeting with Skylar he said, "I did this for me".
Posted on 10/4/14 at 3:14 am to Epic Cajun
I miss that damn show.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 2:55 pm to okietiger
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But let's say he made the right call and accepted the $5 million
not accepting that deal wasn't what got him caught, so that means it wasn't "the right call" as you call it.
nothing would have changed except instead of having 7 barrels of money he would have only had 1.
he got caught because he was sloppy, he made a mistake Mike would have never, ever made, and getting caught cost them all their lives, (well of course his was over anyway) and we don't know about Jesse.
the lesson is his ego is what made him sloppy, made him think he wouldn't get caught when he did, it wasn't fate, it wasn't breaking down in the RV on the highway, which could have easily happened, he made a fatal error any beginner could have foreseen.
if you want to believe "Heisenberg" wanted to be caught, fine, the "Walt" part of him would have rather lived out his remainder un-estranged from his family.
he still won in the end.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 3:03 pm to King George
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Wouldn't the DEA still have caught up to the lawyer making the "legacy" deposits for Mike?
very possible, but that didn't get him caught either, the lawyer and prison crew didn't really know who "Heisenburg" was, and they didn't get much of a chance to tell if they did.
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I don't remember the sequence of events that led Walt to finding out that the DEA had him and he was going to talk.
probably a convo he heard in Hanks office, guess it was before Jesse spilled his guts but either way, it had to be "dealt with".
Mike didn't get caught and if he did he wouldn't rat, might have died in prison with the others, but the other loose ends were the last "crew" and Todds gang plus Lydia, Saul, Mike and Jesse. He tried to get Saul, Mike and Jesse to all take the 'new life' deal.
If Hank doesn't catch him, how many loose ends does he clean up? Who's to say.
This post was edited on 10/5/14 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 10/5/14 at 3:18 pm to Wild Thang
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What if he just let Gus's dealers kill Jessie?
That hypo actually has legs.
Jesse was the lynch pin between the Walt/Heisenberg egos, both needed him for different reasons. Walt would have never let Jane die, but Heisenberg certainly would.
If you want to play "what if", what if Grey Matter had never got off the ground, would "Heisenberg" ever have come into existence in that case?
Posted on 10/5/14 at 3:35 pm to USMCTiger03
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The whole series to me really blew up when Hank found the book. That set off a chain of events that there was no turning back from.
yea no kidding, ya think?
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Walt's ego and bad-blood for Gray Matter got in the way.
clearly, with out that he rides off into the sunset, and the story ends just as it's getting started.
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His count-whore wife didn't help the matter much either.
You mean Sky? the wife that kept his secret, laundered his money and took him back knowing what he was,,, THAT wife? sheesh, of everyone to blame in the show, Sky's pretty much the last one I would, after all she had to worry about her kids getting blown up in an attack on her husband.
This post was edited on 10/5/14 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 10/5/14 at 4:09 pm to Feral
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See, that's the only issue I have with the show and the only semblance of a plot hole I can find -- if Heisenberg is this sort of alter personality fueled by ego and perceived slights, where was it before when he was a lowly chemistry teacher and a put-upon husband who feels like the world has left him far behind?
I think he would have been more likely to just go murder/suicide than develop into Heisenberg with out the cancer.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:32 pm to Wayne Campbell
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if Heisenberg is this sort of alter personality fueled by ego and perceived slights, where was it before when he was a lowly chemistry teacher and a put-upon husband who feels like the world has left him far behind?
hmmm just a thought, maybe it was waiting for a death sentence of lung cancer and the road to bankruptcy to trigger it? nah that couldnt be it.
anyway here's a little fun with BB
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