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re: Batman vs Superman was freaking amazing!!!
Posted on 3/25/16 at 8:35 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Posted on 3/25/16 at 8:35 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Movie quality is subjective.
I disagree. I can not fathom how someone of intelligence can enjoy this film. It is totally disjointed, to where a person who is obsessed with patterns will be highly frustrated. The plot is sloppy. The character motivations make no sense. It's clearly being written by a person who despises the characters.
Sorry, but someone who can perceive horrifying subtext makes it to where you are more often than not more intelligent. An intelligent person questions every facet of the story. Yes there are dumb blockbusters where you turn your brain off, but this isn't one of them. If you enjoyed this movie, then you are blind or stupid. I don't think there is any in-between.
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Posted on 3/25/16 at 8:37 pm to DukeSilver
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I just said this same thing in another thread about him, it's hilarious how he thinks he's factually right about everything.
Please note you're agreeing with LeonPhelps. A guy who this week said he'd be fine with everyone he's ever known dropping dead and never hearing from them again. You're not agreeing with a person we call normal.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 8:44 pm to OMLandshark
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I disagree.
Ok then.
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It is totally disjointed, to where a person who is obsessed with patterns will be highly frustrated
Maybe a person who can't connect the dots without help would be frustrated, I found it easy to follow.
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The plot is sloppy. The character motivations make no sense. It's clearly being written by a person who despises the characters.
How so? Batman has seen shite, now here comes this god like being. "That's how it starts, the fever, the rage...that turns good men, cruel."
"This may be the only thing I do that matters."
He sees Superman as a being that doesn't understand what it means to be a man, when in actuality (as he finds out when he realizes Superman is just trying to save his mother) Superman is just as human emotionally as anyone.
Superman sees Batman as too aggressive, then Lex kidnaps Martha. He doesn't go to fight Batman, he does the Superman thing and goes to ask for his help. But Batman isn't having it so Superman has to fight back. When his death is seconds away he doesn't care, he just wants his mother to be safe. That selflessness is 100% Superman.
Then they work together to stop Lex. And sacrificing himself at the end makes perfect sense for Clark. He cares more about the world than himself, so he dies for "his world".
Batman knows Darkseid is coming (well not specifically, but he knows something is coming) so he wants to form the Justice League, which is also in memory of Superman, because he believes he failed him in life, and he did. He became "cruel" as Alfred would put it. He was blinded by his hate, maybe even his fear. The Justice League is how he makes it right.
I suppose we'll just have to agree to disagree.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 8:45 pm to OMLandshark
Give it a rest.
Intelligent people can disagree. And some intelligent people like the fact that this imperfect flick took some chances and gave us some awesome moments.
I want more also. No doubt. But I would much rather have a flawed serious film like this with my favorite heroes than some campy silly crap like Batman and Robin.
It's not a 30% movie. That is ridiculous. Every movie has problems. This movie has magnified problems because people care so much and because some have an agenda and because there admittedly are problems.
It doesn't mean you can't enjoy it for the good stuff it showed.
Intelligent people can disagree. And some intelligent people like the fact that this imperfect flick took some chances and gave us some awesome moments.
I want more also. No doubt. But I would much rather have a flawed serious film like this with my favorite heroes than some campy silly crap like Batman and Robin.
It's not a 30% movie. That is ridiculous. Every movie has problems. This movie has magnified problems because people care so much and because some have an agenda and because there admittedly are problems.
It doesn't mean you can't enjoy it for the good stuff it showed.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 8:46 pm to LeonPhelps
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LeonPhelps
You really do have shitty taste in movies.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 8:49 pm to OMLandshark
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Movie quality is subjective.
I disagree. I can not fathom how someone of intelligence can enjoy this film.
You're emotional on this one, you have to remember that the GA does not love these characters the way that you do. A lot of my coworkers today told me they enjoyed it. Not everyone is hating on it.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 8:50 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Maybe a person who can't connect the dots without help would be frustrated, but I found it easy to follow.
It was nonsense and poorly edited. It was really the editing that made it so confusing. I understood what was going on, but I always had to do a double take and think it through due to the shitty script and terrible editing.
Like for instance, I still have no idea why Lex Luthor was going after Superman, making him fight Batman, and then cloning Doomsday. Is it just that he's crazy? I thought the motivation would be the same as Bruce's due to destroying the city, but that is never established. He's just a hipster twat and that's it. That's as deep as his character goes, which is incredibly infuriating when it comes to Lex Luthor.
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How so?
How not? Give me any scene in this movie, and I'll tell you what they fricked up on and why it's disjointed compared to what is established in the rest of the film.
This post was edited on 3/25/16 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 3/25/16 at 8:53 pm to OMLandshark
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It was nonsense and poorly edited
I don't disagree that it was poorly edited. But it was easy for me to follow.
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How not? Give me any scene in this movie, and I'll tell you what they fricked up on and why it's disjointed compared to what is established in the rest of the film.
Well I described my thoughts on the Superman/Batman conflict and why I thought it worked. Obviously that's not just one scene though.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 9:01 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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AllBamaDoesIsWin
Thank you for that. You hit upon some the elements from the film that is why some (like me) were able to enjoy the film despite its flaws.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 9:04 pm to OMLandshark
quote:Oh, I'm not agreeing with him. As I said, I said the same thing before I saw his comment. My comment also has nothing to do with BVS, I haven't seen it yet.
Please note you're agreeing with LeonPhelps. A guy who this week said he'd be fine with everyone he's ever known dropping dead and never hearing from them again. You're not agreeing with a person we call normal.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 9:04 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
I'll dissect your post then:
Just because she has the same name as his mother? That it utterly ridiculous. It might stop him in his tracks for 10 seconds, but as soon as he realizes he's talking about someone else, I don't think Batman or really anyone would stop what they are doing just because their mothers have the same name.
Which doesn't make sense from all Clark has done the past two movies. All he's doing is beating the shite out of child predators, which I imagine the public at large is fine with.
No man has been able to stand up to Superman at all. At most, he provides a nuisance to Superman. Superman showing restraint on not murdering him doesn't speak much for the character aside from the fact that he isn't a stupid psycho for hire.
Superman was just a weird alien who cost hundreds of thousands of lives. Plus how exactly did Batman fail him? By not trusting him initially? That's all I've got.
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He sees Superman as a being that doesn't understand what it means to be a man, when in actuality (as he finds out when he realizes Superman is just trying to save his mother) Superman is just as human emotionally as anyone.
Just because she has the same name as his mother? That it utterly ridiculous. It might stop him in his tracks for 10 seconds, but as soon as he realizes he's talking about someone else, I don't think Batman or really anyone would stop what they are doing just because their mothers have the same name.
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Superman sees Batman as too aggressive
Which doesn't make sense from all Clark has done the past two movies. All he's doing is beating the shite out of child predators, which I imagine the public at large is fine with.
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then Lex kidnaps Martha. He doesn't go to fight Batman, he does the Superman thing and goes to ask for his help. But Batman isn't having it so Superman has to fight back. When his death is seconds away he doesn't care, he just wants his mother to be safe. That selflessness is 100% Superman.
No man has been able to stand up to Superman at all. At most, he provides a nuisance to Superman. Superman showing restraint on not murdering him doesn't speak much for the character aside from the fact that he isn't a stupid psycho for hire.
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Batman knows Darkseid is coming (well not specifically, but he knows something is coming) so he wants to form the Justice League, which is also in memory of Superman, because he believes he failed him in life, and he did. He became "cruel" as Alfred would put it. He was blinded by his hate, maybe even his fear. The Justice League is how he makes it right.
Superman was just a weird alien who cost hundreds of thousands of lives. Plus how exactly did Batman fail him? By not trusting him initially? That's all I've got.
This post was edited on 3/25/16 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 3/25/16 at 9:15 pm to udtiger
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Thank you for that. You hit upon some the elements from the film that is why some (like me) were able to enjoy the film despite its flaws.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 9:59 pm to LeonPhelps
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You cannot prove why one movie is better than another. It's like proving why one color is better.
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there is no right opinion in movies. It is 100% subjective.
False. You said you liked Amadeus, in the movie you can see how distraught Salieri is over Mozart's talent and the fact that his music was simply better than his own. Music, like film, is not "100% subjective" when judging it critically. Taste is separate from quality. Half Baked is one my favorite movies of all time, I enjoy watching it much more so than 2001: A Space Odyssey or Seven Samurai. To say Half Baked is better than a movie like 2001 is ridiculous. To say Man of Steel is flat out better than The Godfather, like you did in the other thread, is ridiculous.
This post was edited on 3/25/16 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 3/25/16 at 10:10 pm to LeonPhelps
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Star Wars: The Force Awakens. Those go in there somewhere but not sure what to bump.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 10:58 pm to LeonPhelps
Saw it twice...tried to enjoy it but it's just awful. Man of Steel was awful. The dialogue alone in that movie makes me cringe. I can't understand how anyone enjoyed this. The first time I went I was with 8 friends, 1 liked it. This time I took 3 of my boys ages 12 to 17 and they were mad at me because I made them watch that but wouldn't let them watch Deadpool. That's 11 people I watched it with and 1 person liked it.
Posted on 3/27/16 at 10:02 pm to LeonPhelps
Can now upvote this thread after watching that great superhero movie
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:25 am to LeonPhelps
I saw Batman vs Superman last night...
Let me preface this by saying that I'm a pretty easy guy to please when it comes to movies. I'm not overly critical. I'm just there for the ride.
But that movie just wasn't good. It had so many cringeworthy moments. I couldn't wait for it to end.
Let me preface this by saying that I'm a pretty easy guy to please when it comes to movies. I'm not overly critical. I'm just there for the ride.
But that movie just wasn't good. It had so many cringeworthy moments. I couldn't wait for it to end.
This post was edited on 4/29/16 at 9:29 am
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:27 am to Fenwick86
quote:Hold up. What?
To say Man of Steel is flat out better than The Godfather, like you did in the other thread
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:36 am to McCaigBro69
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it as the worst comic book film maybe ever.
quote:Of the ones I've seen, it's up there.
You can't be serious.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 11:54 am to Fun Bunch
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Of course you would think this since almost all your opinions are awful.
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