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re: Batman vs. Superman: Dawn of Justice Official Trailer

Posted on 4/16/15 at 8:27 pm to
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 8:27 pm to
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Sounds like a terrible *Superman* movie.


This is a critique. Not hate.

As in, "As a movie about Superman, this isn't the best way to go." Read between the lines.

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well this is going to blow


He has an opinion that it might suck, not that he "hates." it.

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The execs over at MARVEL are fapping and laughing their ARSES off and high fiving each other in the halls


Insinuating that Marvel has a leg up on the competition, nothing more.

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All over the place. Man I thought Affleck was a good sign.


Do you realize that I LIKE the Affleck casting. I think he's perfect. "All over the place," means some of their decisions don't match up with some of the good ones. Again, not hate.

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Everything I hear about this movie only gets worse and worse. It's as if they let an 8 year old write this movie.


There you go, you found one.

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I'm really not going to get my hopes up fr this movie because there is a strong possibility it will bomb


Opinion that might suck. Will probably see this opening night I'm guessing.

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This movie will have the epic suck.

And I have tried to remain optimistic.

The JL movie will blow chunks too


They admit optimism. I don't think this person "hates," they seem more disappointed with the movie.

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eta to be clear only the two links I posted are quotes by freaxzen


And neither was hate. And one was even in reference to something I liked.

You guys take ANY critique as "hate," and get your panties in a wad. Like feminists. Sack up and grow a pair. People don't hate BvS, they're just often skeptical of the news that's coming out. Except for this guy:

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Everything I hear about this movie only gets worse and worse. It's as if they let an 8 year old write this movie.
Yeah that's a little ridiculous.

Posted by BigAppleTiger
New York City
Member since Dec 2008
10381 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 8:27 pm to
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Freauxzen



I think you're a good poster,but this film has received a lot of "hate", negative speculation, etc. since its anouncement and pretty much every subsequent casting update. It was pretty common on this board. I don't know why you're making a molehill out of a mountain but you're choosing to. Sure it will be packed on opening day, but there has been much negative speculation from the start on this board and the internet. Not really debatable. Parsing the word hate is a semantic argument as well. Not trying to "hate" on you, just an observation.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37263 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 8:29 pm to
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But, that's not "hate".


It isn't. And you're part of the cultural "Oh woe is me!" if you think it is. Most of these are critiques. And I guarantee you most of these people will see the film.

Going to see the film is certainly not hate.
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
46425 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 8:36 pm to
Posted by DukeSilver
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 8:39 pm to
I don't think you know the difference between "hating ON something" and actually "hating something". Tons of people have absolutely been "hating ON" this since the beginning.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51659 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 8:40 pm to
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Going to see the film is certainly not hate.


So you're saying if you see a movie you can't hate it?
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37263 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 8:40 pm to
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"hate",


Not really.

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negative speculation


I agree with this 100%. But that's what we do around here, speculate. and that happens to almost EVERY fan property, even Marvel stuff. Go look at the initial The Force Awakens stuff. Some people excited. Some people not so much. But the trailers have been fantastic. And the casting, not so weird. So yeah less skepticism over time. But there are still people who are ticked at the non-Expanded Universe stuff. See the thread today.

Ghostbusters? TMNT? Transformers? Jurassic World? (Just look at the internet reaction to the latest clip. People going nutso) I could go on.

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I don't know why you're making a molehill out of a mountain but you're choosing to. Sure it will be packed on opening day, but there has been much negative speculation from the start on this board and the internet. Not really debatable. Parsing the word hate is a semantic argument as well. Not trying to "hate" on you, just an observation.


There is no mountain.

The issue is how the "hate," is received. Most fans suck it up and deal with it. Every single fan property receives criticism and "hate," just because those properties are special to fans. Plenty of people constantly say they hate comic book movies in general, hate Marvel movies specifically, etc.

The real issue is that it seems an overwhelming amount of the MoS/BvS/DC fans take any kind of critique personally or as "hate," and react differently. It's like you can never honestly critique it because even things supported with facts are met with pitchforks. So I bet some of those comments are troll attempts by some people because those folks get sol easily riled. Others are probably just exaggerations and those people are fans and probably will see the film, some, very few, might be real.

But the BvS champs take EVERY COMMENT AND CRITIQUE that isn't pro-BvS as the same thing and it isn't. And it waters down the conversation.

It all becomes "hate," and now it's an "us against them" mentality.

This post was edited on 4/16/15 at 8:41 pm
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37263 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 8:42 pm to
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I don't think you know the difference between "hating ON something" and actually "hating something". Tons of people have absolutely been "hating ON" this since the beginning.


See above. I actually think it's BvS super champs that don't understand the difference. They take everything as "hate."

See my comment about WW/Doomsday with Affleck mentions. There is 0 hate in that comment. Zero. But it was categorized as such.
This post was edited on 4/16/15 at 8:51 pm
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37263 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 8:43 pm to
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So you're saying if you see a movie you can't hate it?


If you intended to support a film by spending money on it, especially during the first two weeks when these things matter, even while thinking you hate it...No that isn't hate. Or that's a very twisted and pointless kind of hate. Or that person is an idiot.

And yes, after you see a film you can certainly hate it. If most people hate BvS AFTER the film is released, you guys can finally declare it the truth that everyone hates BvS. Finally!
This post was edited on 4/16/15 at 8:50 pm
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35624 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 9:21 pm to
i can't seem to find anything on this except this video...
LINK
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
44561 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:10 pm to
here's the whole thing, might get pulled though

LINK
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35259 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:21 pm to
Holy shite dude. That was so fricking awesome. The shot of the soldiers kneeling before Superman was so tight!

ETA: The idea that some people are viewing Superman as a God is really cool.



This post was edited on 4/16/15 at 11:04 pm
Posted by schexyoung
Deaf Valley
Member since May 2008
6534 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:27 pm to
The normal Batman suit looks great. Alfred sounds good.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35624 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:30 pm to
holy crap that was awesome
Posted by WalkingTurtles
Alexandria
Member since Jan 2013
5913 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:41 pm to
Batman had a plan to take out each member of the Justice League just in case. He's beaten Superman with kryptonite.
Posted by schexyoung
Deaf Valley
Member since May 2008
6534 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:44 pm to
If there is a dossier in the BatCave I'll cry tears of joy.
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:51 pm to
Knowing Abrams, we'll see something like that.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57676 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:00 pm to
I don't think I'll hate the movie. I just hate the choice of Ben Affleck as batman. Loathe it.
Posted by CayceCock13
Braves / Hornets / Rams Fan
Member since Oct 2012
17543 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:01 pm to
"Tell me, do you bleed? You will."
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35259 posts
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:02 pm to
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"Tell me, do you bleed? You will."
fricking awesome.
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