re: Avengers: Age of Ultron trailer

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Fan's have to let go of direct adaptions of the comics though. I see a lot of "How does CW work without Spiderman??", "So they must be bringing Punisher into the Marvel U", etc... Relax. It'll work.

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It's called trust. Marvel has earned that.

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They brand these things because they have a built-in draw. They get us into the theater and screw everything up - when you look how bad X-Men got - and that's just an example.

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But it's almost a CERTAINTY that you can't take a property from one medium and transfer it directly, word for word, beat for beat, scene for scene, into another (there are exceptions). It just doesn't work that way. There's time, resources, content, etc. to consider.

Civil War doesn't only work as a story because, word for word, scene for scene, it's constructed to work that way. Great stories can be boiled down, can be uncovered and made more lean. This is normal. So I see no problem with Civil War as a concept, Stark's ideals vs. Rogers' ideals, in a more intimate film. If anything, Marvel has earned that chance.

The only two things that become a problem are
1) Spider-Man
2) Scope

Spider-Man is a legitimate problem. One of the best moments of Civil Wars is Spider-Man choosing to reveal himself. It was a beloved hero, one who's life was different from a lot of other major heroes. He, and the people around him, were far more vulnerable (for the most part). So there was a level of meaning that can't be brought, we really don't have a Peter Parker in this world.

I assume they'll just ignore this, yes the theme will lose the connection of the home, of a family, but I think it's going to be replaced by a more direct conflict between Stark and Rogers. With Stark being responsible for Ultron, and inevitably hundreds or thousands of deaths, his side is going to be heavier, more fierce. I assume from AoU that Stark basically replaces Speedball's moment. So the story is going to be more about 2 men, than it will about a whole universe.

Film is just a different kind of medium. There's no problem with taking inspiration, or large narrative slices, of comic books and placing them into the film world, regardless of whether or not they are complete. They can get to the core of the comic book story or arc, and if they do, everybody wins.

So I'm wondering, what is you guys opinion of the way Ultron's face looks? I was a little surprised to see that his mouth moved and that he had more human looking eyes. That being said, May cant get here fast enough.

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Um, we figured out Tony Stark in the first 10 minutes of Iron Man 1.

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Maybe so - I'll admit, the excessive banter in Avengers was a little offputting. I gave it a pass on the simplification stuff (I recognize that film is different and film audiences are different), because it looked right, felt right, and their casting choices - RDJ and Ruffalo, in particular, seem to be pretty good, overall.

Good casting can overcome a certain amount of other obstacles, just a bad casting can overwhelm an otherwise good project.

Having said that,

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There's no string I see.

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My son says one has to watch most, if not all of these movies, to see all the pieces of of the story - and not the Spiderman, but the MCU films. Since I'm not going to do that -



- I guess I'll just have to deal with it.

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A.I..

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Godawful. And by a legendary director, as well.

Easily Spielberg's worst film as a director, other than a film I pretend wasn't made.

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Already glaring plot holes:

How does a sentient robot know a piece of pop culture art form from the 40s?

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The answer is quite simple: J.A.R.V.I.S

Who has been around in some form for over 10 years absorbing, analyzing, listening to everything. I'm sure JARVIS scans the internet, loves him some cat memes, and knows about Disney movies.

Not really too complicated.

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And why would he think that humans communicate that way?

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It's a fairly efficient metaphor saying that everyone involved in this is under some sort of control, some "strings." Hydra, Shield, just using people. We've already established that theme.

"Two sides of the same coin."

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Easily Spielberg's worst film as a director,

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well considering it was Kubricks film up until the last 30 minutes or so, i would disagree on the movie as a whole. Spielberg did frick up the end game. mostly because he is the worst person to take over for Kubrick. completely different directing styles.

my god, people are taking this shite way too seriously.

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my god, people are taking this shite way too seriously.

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we're on a website that is obsessive about sports-the king of taken too seriously entertainment.

whoa whoa, AI is too shitty of a movie to hijack an AoU thread.