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Posted on 4/4/14 at 6:48 am to BlacknGold
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so is she Slades daughter as well then? i have to believe so since the actor said we have seen his kid before already.
I don't want to come straight out and say since it is a spoiler, but if you click on the link it explains it.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 7:23 am to Bamatab
I wouldn't say that's much of a spoiler without the context to go with it. People who are caught up with the show already know where her true allegiance lies.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 7:31 am to Bamatab
quote:
but if you click on the link it explains it.
Actually it doesn't
Posted on 4/4/14 at 8:01 am to RollTide1987
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I wouldn't say that's much of a spoiler without the context to go with it. People who are caught up with the show already know where her true allegiance lies.
That's why I played it safe. If the non-reader fans here want to see it, they can click the link and do that.
This post was edited on 4/4/14 at 8:02 am
Posted on 4/4/14 at 8:53 am to Byron Bojangles III
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Actually it doesn't
You're right, my bad. It says in the comics she is Ravager, his daughter. I misread it.
I also thought that Slade said he had a daughter in season 1, but then I went back and looked it up and he said he had a son named Joe, not a daughter. So why would Slade mention his son, and not his daughter while the were still friends?
I think that Isabel's motives for joining up with Slade will either be because she is his daughter, or her grudge against Oliver stems from his father (like in the comics), or a combination of the two.
Here is what we know about her:
1. She was on the undertaking list (her name two names below Adam Hunt's in the pilot).
2. She said she was born in Russia, but was adopted and brought to the US.
3. Moira knows her, or at least about her since Moira has warned Oliver on several occasions that she's dangerous.
4. She knows enough about Oliver's father to make the "Sins of the father are the sins of the son" comment.
5. From her first introduction this season, she is out to take over Queen Consolidated.
6. She is in league with Slade.
7. And from those pictures, she takes on the Ravager mantle (or at least the gear).
I have also been wondering if Isabel could've been the woman that Fryers calls while on the island. That woman used a voice changer and they didn't show her face, but her outline was very similar to Isabel. But that is pure speculation on my part. And it is hard to explain why she would be leading Fryers' group at the island, yet the group was going against Slade. The only way that I can come up with where that works is if Slade was playing Oliver the whole time they were on the island, but then that makes the whole Slade breakdown because of Shado storyline seem far fetched.
With all that said, I think they could really do a lot with her storyline if they so choose. It'll be interesting to see what direction they decide to take it.
This post was edited on 4/4/14 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 4/4/14 at 9:54 am to Bamatab
Maybe she killed Isabel Rochev, stole her identity and is in fact Slade's biological daughter.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 10:20 am to Byron Bojangles III
Maybe, but why would Slade tell Oliver about his son and not his daughter while they were still friends on the island?
I've been pondering a theory that she might be Slade's illegitimate daughter from a hookup he had with some Russian lady while he was on a mission, that he didn't know about. The mother either got killed or just put Isabel up for adoption. Then someone adopted her and brought her to the US (maybe even Robert Queen). She got caught up in the undertaking somehow, and felt betrayed by Robert. Slade then found out about her after he got back from the island, and the two set out to take down Oliver for what Oliver did to Shado, and what Robert did to Isabel.
That's my working theory anyways. But they could go in several different directions with her character really.
I've been pondering a theory that she might be Slade's illegitimate daughter from a hookup he had with some Russian lady while he was on a mission, that he didn't know about. The mother either got killed or just put Isabel up for adoption. Then someone adopted her and brought her to the US (maybe even Robert Queen). She got caught up in the undertaking somehow, and felt betrayed by Robert. Slade then found out about her after he got back from the island, and the two set out to take down Oliver for what Oliver did to Shado, and what Robert did to Isabel.
That's my working theory anyways. But they could go in several different directions with her character really.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 10:56 am to Byron Bojangles III
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Maybe she killed Isabel Rochev, stole her identity and is in fact Slade's biological daughter.
THE PLOT THICKENS!
Posted on 4/4/14 at 11:03 am to Bamatab
I think in the comics Ravager is his illegitimate daughter
Posted on 4/4/14 at 11:47 am to Bamatab
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why would Slade tell Oliver about his son and not his daughter while they were still friends on the island?
Slade also said in present day that he doesnt have any kids. clearly he is hiding things for a reason now.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 12:42 pm to BlacknGold
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Slade also said in present day that he doesnt have any kids. clearly he is hiding things for a reason now.
Yeah, I can see why he would be trying to hide his children from people now. But what I don't understand is why he would feel the need to hide the fact that he has a daughter from Oliver (who at that point was still supposedly his friend), especially when he told Oliver about his son. There is the potential for a great plot line there. Hopefully they'll take advantage of it (they normally do on this show).
Posted on 4/4/14 at 12:50 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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I think in the comics Ravager is his illegitimate daughter
Yep, you're right. I just went and did a quick lookup of her character (I'm not that familar with her), and she is illegitimate. Also, her mother did keep Rose a secret from Slade.
So maybe Slade didn't know that he had a daughter while he was on the island (if Isabel does turn out to be his daughter).
Posted on 4/4/14 at 2:10 pm to Murray
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If the non-reader fans here want to see it, they can click the link and do that.
I clicked, but I only saw red boxes.
Damn work filters.
And I like looking at pictures of that particular female.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 5:02 pm to PsychTiger
Two other characters are supposed to appear in the next episode:
Dr. Caitlin Snow
and
Cisco "Paco" Ramon
Dr. Caitlin Snow
and
Cisco "Paco" Ramon
Posted on 4/16/14 at 7:57 am to CGSC Lobotomy
It's Wednesday you mofos!
Finally a new Arrow tonight and 5 straight weeks with no breaks. All the way to the finale! Bout god damn time.
Finally a new Arrow tonight and 5 straight weeks with no breaks. All the way to the finale! Bout god damn time.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:10 am to wish i was tebow
At this point there's only one thing that can save Ollie and his pals from Slade:
Nope.
So close, but still no..
NO!!!
Boom there it is
Nope.
So close, but still no..
NO!!!
Boom there it is
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