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Anyone in the Star Wars:TFA was really disappointing category?
Posted on 12/20/15 at 10:58 pm
Posted on 12/20/15 at 10:58 pm
TFW felt to me a lot like what "The Hobbit" was for the LotR movies. A kiddie dumbed down version that catered to the lowest/widest common denominator, and did a disservice to what the series could have been considering the awesome universe created by so many authors over the past 3 decades.
Maybe as someone who loved the post RotJ universe the books created as much as as the original movies, I have a different perspective on what the Star Wars series is. I loved the universe that existed and the political world building and character development/creation that had happened with many of the books that were canon prior to these new movies. I just feel very "what could have been" as far as missing out on an opportunity to have a serious, engaging, politcal, and conflict filled story, set to the backdrop of the Star Wars universe, played out on the big screen.
My literary fanboy objections aside. The almost exact rehashing of original plotlines, ridiculous plot holes/gaps(po just somehow being alive and never even giving a cursory explanation as to how, the existence of both a republic and a resistance wut?why?, r2d2 having half the missing map the entire time and only coming online at the end. K.), the need to a make the majority of the intense scenes include some sort of "lol" moment, and fin being a moron were all pretty annoying features that made the movie much worse in my opinion.
The really annoying thing is in the end Disney is still gonna win. Even as frustrated as I am with the wasted potential of this series, I'm still gonna end up watching all 3 in theaters and Disney's gonna make an assload of money on the whole thing making a fairly underwhelming product that has a brand too big fail.
Downvote away, but I am very disappointed by the path the series is taking.
Maybe as someone who loved the post RotJ universe the books created as much as as the original movies, I have a different perspective on what the Star Wars series is. I loved the universe that existed and the political world building and character development/creation that had happened with many of the books that were canon prior to these new movies. I just feel very "what could have been" as far as missing out on an opportunity to have a serious, engaging, politcal, and conflict filled story, set to the backdrop of the Star Wars universe, played out on the big screen.
My literary fanboy objections aside. The almost exact rehashing of original plotlines, ridiculous plot holes/gaps(po just somehow being alive and never even giving a cursory explanation as to how, the existence of both a republic and a resistance wut?why?, r2d2 having half the missing map the entire time and only coming online at the end. K.), the need to a make the majority of the intense scenes include some sort of "lol" moment, and fin being a moron were all pretty annoying features that made the movie much worse in my opinion.
The really annoying thing is in the end Disney is still gonna win. Even as frustrated as I am with the wasted potential of this series, I'm still gonna end up watching all 3 in theaters and Disney's gonna make an assload of money on the whole thing making a fairly underwhelming product that has a brand too big fail.
Downvote away, but I am very disappointed by the path the series is taking.
This post was edited on 12/21/15 at 12:26 am
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Posted on 12/20/15 at 10:59 pm to TigerTalker142
No one obviously...
Posted on 12/20/15 at 11:00 pm to TigerTalker142
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The really annoying thing is in the end Disney is still gonna win.
I took my five year old to his first Star Wars movie today, and it was an amazing film.
I was the winner today.
There was a generation of parents that did this 16 years ago, and it didn't work out for them.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 11:01 pm to TigerTalker142
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dissapointed catagory?
Did you drop out of middle school?
Posted on 12/20/15 at 11:06 pm to TigerTalker142
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the need to a make the majority of the intense scenes include some sort of "lol" moment
Did you like the original trilogy? There were very few scenes in the OT that didn't include jokes and humor.
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Even as frustrated as I am with the wasted potential of this series, I'm still gonna end up watching all 3 in theaters and Disney's gonna make an assload of money on the whole thing making what is a fairly underwhelming product that has a brand too big fail.
Way to vote with your wallet. If you don't like the movies, then you shouldn't support them.
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I just feel very "what could have been" as far as missing out on an opportunity to have a serious, engaging, politcal, and conflict filled story, set to the backdrop of the Star Wars universe, played out on the big screen.
You just described most of what was wrong with the prequel trilogy. They were too serious, and they included too much politics, and it felt like a totally different franchise than Star Wars despite the fact that they kept the name and universe.
This post was edited on 12/20/15 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 12/20/15 at 11:07 pm to SwaggerCopter
Oh shite I misspelled some words. RUN FOR YOUR LIVES
This post was edited on 12/20/15 at 11:46 pm
Posted on 12/20/15 at 11:14 pm to DrSteveBrule
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Did you like the original trilogy? There were very few scenes in the OT that didn't include jokes and humor.
I thoroughly enjoyed the original series. They have some humorous moments, but it was not forced in at all to the extent that it was in TFA. Essentially every single scene that had any sort of intensity or action in it had multiple attempts at comedy, until the death at the end and the final fight. It was really overdone IMO. Felt way more like guardians of the galaxy then the OT.
This post was edited on 12/20/15 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 12/20/15 at 11:15 pm to TigerTalker142
Never to see Grand Admiral Thrawn!! -.-
Posted on 12/20/15 at 11:19 pm to TigerTalker142
Guardians of the Galaxy was 100x better than TFA.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 11:28 pm to DrSteveBrule
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Way to vote with your wallet. If you don't like the movies, then you shouldn't support them.
It's Star Wars, I'm gonna see it despite it's flaws. Doesn't mean I can't think they're wasting it's potential.
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You just described most of what was wrong with the prequel trilogy. They were too serious, and they included too much politics, and it felt like a totally different franchise than Star Wars despite the fact that they kept the name and universe
My issues with the prequels was more along the lines of bland/bad acting, and to a lesser extant another rehashing of plots in PM. I never had massive issues with the overall plot or pacing of them that other people seemed to have. 8 year old me thought they were the shite, and adult me can appreciate the somewhat elevated story lines from a normal blockbuster scifi series.
This post was edited on 12/20/15 at 11:42 pm
Posted on 12/20/15 at 11:29 pm to fr33manator
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Posted on 12/20/15 at 11:30 pm to fr33manator
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Guardians of the Galaxy was 100x better than TFA.
I agree. I think if the Star Wars brand wasn't attached to TFA, most everyone else would as well.
Edit: holy shite typing all this on my phone is causing funky formatting, misspelling and double posts galore.
This post was edited on 12/20/15 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 12/21/15 at 12:04 am to TigerTalker142
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A kiddie dumbed down version that catered to the lowest/widest common denominator
Yeah, you knew it was going that route when the storm troopers massacred the village full of unarmed citizens in the first scene...
didn't read passed this.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 12:09 am to DrSteveBrule
100000% agree with the OP. It's not really kidified, they killed Han and shot the villagers, but it's incredibly dumbed down. There's no nuance, there's no scope. It's a run of the mill Hollywood blockbuster. The way everything was just thrown together and kept happening felt like transformers.
Making Zahn's Thrawn trilogy as is would've been 100x better. But it would've made way less money bc the vast majority of people don't want to have to think. They just want to scream in delight when the MF is miraculously sitting unguarded in working order ready to be stolen at a moments notice by the two protagonists
Making Zahn's Thrawn trilogy as is would've been 100x better. But it would've made way less money bc the vast majority of people don't want to have to think. They just want to scream in delight when the MF is miraculously sitting unguarded in working order ready to be stolen at a moments notice by the two protagonists
Posted on 12/21/15 at 12:12 am to asurob1
Well you probably should cause I bring up some decent points. The hobbit has trolls trying to eat people alive and goblins attempting to murder the whole group in the first 40 minutes. Doesn't mean it's not a significantly more lighthearted dumbed down version of what was the best high fantasy series to ever touch the big screen.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 12:24 am to TigerTalker142
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Doesn't mean it's not a significantly more lighthearted dumbed down version of what was the best high fantasy series to ever touch the big screen.
Let's see...murdered two groups of unarmed towns.
Wiped out not one but 5 planets full of billions of people.
Killed off the greatest hero in the sci-fi genre of our generation.
Yup a very lighthearted flick.
This post was edited on 12/21/15 at 12:27 am
Posted on 12/21/15 at 12:28 am to asurob1
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Yup a very light heart flick
Way to focus on one semantic phrase when the OP actually makes a bunch of legitimate points. Substitute light hearted for dumbed down if you want, the point is the same. The movie obviously went through Disney/Marvel wringer. Instead of expanding on the awesome universe Lucas and Expanded Universe team created, we got a New Hope remade for the age of comic book movies
Posted on 12/21/15 at 12:29 am to TigerTalker142
If you came away disappointed, then you probably either had unrealistic expectations to begin with, or were just biased against it due to them throwing out the all the books that came after, which you alluded to in your post.
It wasn't a perfect movie, but it's Star Wars not Citizen Kane.
It wasn't a perfect movie, but it's Star Wars not Citizen Kane.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 12:31 am to asurob1
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Yeah, you knew it was going that route when the storm troopers massacred the village full of unarmed citizens in the first scene...
Did the same thing to Luke's aunt and uncle
Posted on 12/21/15 at 12:34 am to KingSlayer
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If you came away disappointed, then you probably either had unrealistic expectations to begin with, or were just biased against it due to them throwing out the all the books that came after, which you alluded to in your post.
It wasn't a perfect movie, but it's Star Wars not Citizen Kane.
This is a fair sentiment, and I did enjoy the movie. It was entertaining. The main issue I have is a lot of people seem to be treating it as if it is a perfect movie; as if Abrams created some masterpiece instead of an entertaining film bringing virtually nothing new to the table.
And I understand why they made the film the way they did. They wanted to make their money back and appeal to as money people as possible, which they successfully did. But in taking the safe route they not only prevented a flop, they also prevented anything truly great.
Another thing, people keep using the "It's Star Wars" defense to justify all these glaring story telling and logistical plot holes. And it's the same sort of logic I hear thrown around to defend Transformers 3 or an Adam Sandler movie. Personally, I hold Star Wars to a little bit of a higher standard.
TFA was entertaining, but the prequels were also entertaining IMO. Where is the "It's Star Wars" defense when the prequels are getting ripped to shreds?
This post was edited on 12/21/15 at 12:39 am
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